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Old 12th February 2022, 15:42   #1
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I was driving along the A65 towards Leeds where there are at least 7 speed cameras within about 5 miles. I was flashed just outside Rawdon traffic lights where a 30mph zone becomes a 40 mph zone. The markings on the road are literally placed to within about 50 feet of the 40 sign. I was doing 36 mph!
I've been driving 50 years and have only had 3 points on my licence around 20 years ago. This was a similar event, when I was travelling at 37mph in a 30 zone. I was officially speeding on both accounts, but the camera in Rawdon is not obvious and certainly does not achieve anything but to milk the motorist. I have opted for a speed awareness course, as I don't want points on my licence. However, I consider myself a very careful and courteous driver with a vast experience of driving. It will be interesting to hear why these cameras are positioned in locations that in my opinion are there for no other purpose than a cash cow!

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Old 12th February 2022, 15:52   #2
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. It will be interesting to hear why these cameras are positioned in locations that in my opinion are there for no other purpose than a cash cow!
So, you exceeded the speed limits on these two occasions, you say. How do you think the cameras are just cash cows?

Withdraw your support for these imaginary cash cows by obeying the speed limit!
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Old 12th February 2022, 16:30   #3
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............ I was travelling at 37mph in a 30 zone. I was officially speeding on both accounts, but the camera in Rawdon is not obvious and certainly does not achieve anything but to milk the motorist. ...........

So, you were driving at a speed 20% above the limit and expected the camera to be clearly highlighted so that you could slow down just before it flashes?

If a person believes that when caught speeding the camera has not achieved anything i.e. the person has not learnt a lesson, then really I would question whether such a person should be driving at all.

Sorry - no sympathy.
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Old 12th February 2022, 16:31   #4
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I was driving along the A65 towards Leeds where there are at least 7 speed cameras within about 5 miles. I was flashed just outside Rawdon traffic lights where a 30mph zone becomes a 40 mph zone. The markings on the road are literally placed to within about 50 feet of the 40 sign. I was doing 36 mph!
I've been driving 50 years and have only had 3 points on my licence around 20 years ago. This was a similar event, when I was travelling at 37mph in a 30 zone. I was officially speeding on both accounts, but the camera in Rawdon is not obvious and certainly does not achieve anything but to milk the motorist. I have opted for a speed awareness course, as I don't want points on my licence. However, I consider myself a very careful and courteous driver with a vast experience of driving. It will be interesting to hear why these cameras are positioned in locations that in my opinion are there for no other purpose than a cash cow!
oh here we go, another speeder moaning they have been caught. If you dont want to pay the fine, don't commit the crime, simple as that. It is good they only flash at those speeding. Why on earth should the speed camera be obvious?

I'm a little unsure, were you going from a 30 to a 40 or a 40 to a 30?

It is frustrating to do your best to not to exceed the speed limit then accidently exceed it and get caught, you have my sympathy. See I'm not heartless, well, not totally

I queried some years ago about the positioning of a speed camera and was advised, it is because there have been x number of accidents in that area. Can not recall what x was, 5 may be.

Dont want to bring gloom and doom but some insurance companies do ask if you have done a speed awareness course.

The course can give you ideas, so do go with an open mind.

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Old 12th February 2022, 17:46   #5
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Dont want to bring gloom and doom but some insurance companies do ask if you have done a speed awareness course.

The course can give you ideas, so do go with an open mind.

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Old 12th February 2022, 18:01   #6
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If you buy a new car soon it wont break the speed limit without warning you and you having to increase the pressure on the pedal noticably.


I am still not sure why we are having this on our cars when this is an EU new legislation. Maybe in a couple of years when the Police revenue starts declining noticably they will become optional?
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.........Maybe in a couple of years when the Police revenue starts declining noticably they will become optional?

Fines go to the treasury - there is no 'police revenue' associated with speeding fines.
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Old 12th February 2022, 18:36   #8
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I got caught a couple of months ago, speed awareness course later this month. Divide the cost up amongst all the times I've exceeded the limit when driving (probably every time I've driven) and it's fractions of pennies - I've been driving since 1984. Been caught twice, around 2014 doing 35 in a 30 and this time round doing 48 on the motorway in a 40 zone.
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Some years ago I attended a awareness course (no brainer) There were a large number of people on the course we were split into groups of maybe five. each group were put in the position of being involved in an accident were a five year old child was killed. one group were the drivers of the car involved, one group was the family of the child, ect As the driver of the car I had to explain to the Childs family why I was speeding ect ect. I can assure you with grandchildren of my own it really hit home. I do not speed at all since. Those people who think speed limits don't apply to them just put yourself in that position
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Similarly, I witnessed an accident in the late 1980s where three young people died instantly. Still remember the blood everywhere on the road. Being a key witness, I appeared at the Coroner's court to give evidence and saw the affected families.

I just don't speed and haven't done so since the early 1990s when I went past a fully marked up police car at 70MPH in a 50 MPH roadworks zone. The police car caught up with me after the roadworks and the officer explained why he spends his time driving around trying to save people from themselves. I think he realised that I had just had one of those slip ups and didn't even threaten to give me a ticket.

I actually really enjoy my driving whilst staying within speed limits.
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