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Old 13th November 2019, 23:56   #91
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Andrew, Newcastle City Council is hell bent on " green traffic improvement" schemes, reams of badly thought out remodelling of junctions, and unnecessary narrowing of carriageways, and excessive street furniture and signage, cycle lanes which happen to be ignored by most cyclists.

I have observed this "progress" first hand, watched how traffic is affected by the congestion caused by traffic light on roundabouts, bus lanes effective from 7.00 to 19.00 where in off peak periods, you find three double decker busses coming along every ten minute with a handful of passengers being carried.

Speed cushions, that wreck suspension components, cause particulate commission in the form of friction material dust, and rubber dust from tyre, irrespective of the propulsion format of the vehicle.

Make no bones, Newcastle City Council have made it abundantly clear that their desire is to make it as difficult as possible for the private motorist to navigate not only the city centre, but the surrounding suburbs with their crackpot populist schemes.

I hope to be around in 30 years, but I would like to think my children will be also, and I'm not as selfish as you seem to be implying.

I'm an engineer, I also have an analytical mind, and I have eyes and ears, and can actually see first hand what is being carried out to the detriment of my local environment, by people with vested interests........vested interests I hear you say? surely not? T.Dan Smith....remember him

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Brian, I have no doubt that there are incompetent road engineers mis-applying technology in their re-design of Newcastle's road layout, but I suggest their primary motive is traffic management and congestion, and perhaps their green (pollution) concerns are the natural by-product of having to solve the primary problem of increased numbers of private and public transport vehicles, as well as commercial vehicles, standing in traffic jams for longer and longer periods. Yes, they may even be trying to make public transport more speedy by giving it priority over us car drivers - and they make no bones about it in the city centre. But ultimately, they are trying to improve the lives of all Geordies, by ensuring they can get to their destination efficiently. There simply isn't enough road space at rush hour in our cities if we all insist on driving solo in our cars. Back in the days of the yellow trolley buses, there was far less traffic on Newcastle's streets, but it was still fairly chaotic! It seems like a paradox to accuse our councillors of populism in one breath, and then accuse them of upsetting and annoying their population in another!
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Old 14th November 2019, 00:08   #92
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PS T.Dan Smith is long dead, and while not wishing to appear complacent, the level to which our public officials are nowadays scrutinised suggests they would soon be held to account, as we have seen in Middlesborough, and other councils. Who is bribing these officials, the manufacturers of bollards, signs and sleeping policemen? I doubt it. They are more likely guilty of lazy thinking, bad judgement and incompetence. Or perhaps we, the drivers, just hate anything that slows OUR progress in our luxurious cocoons.
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Wow 14 pages & 133 posts 134 with mine I can not believe this thread is still in the general forum for our cars, I thought it would have been moved to social forum after post 1
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Brian, I have no doubt that there are incompetent road engineers mis-applying technology in their re-design of Newcastle's road layout, but I suggest their primary motive is traffic management and congestion, and perhaps their green (pollution) concerns are the natural by-product of having to solve the primary problem of increased numbers of private and public transport vehicles, as well as commercial vehicles, standing in traffic jams for longer and longer periods. Yes, they may even be trying to make public transport more speedy by giving it priority over us car drivers - and they make no bones about it in the city centre. But ultimately, they are trying to improve the lives of all Geordies, by ensuring they can get to their destination efficiently. There simply isn't enough road space at rush hour in our cities if we all insist on driving solo in our cars. Back in the days of the yellow trolley buses, there was far less traffic on Newcastle's streets, but it was still fairly chaotic! It seems like a paradox to accuse our councillors of populism in one breath, and then accuse them of upsetting and annoying their population in another!
Andrew, everything, and I mean everything that has been carried out in the past five years, in a misguided attempt to "improve the environment" as their current signs proclaim on the section of roadworks which has taken from May until the present to not be completed, has been to the detriment of actual traffic flow.

They are anti motorist, they are creating congestion, this is because they have a vested interest in creating congestion in order that they can then "congestion charge" in order to keep in line with the nonsensical air quality guidelines set out in EU clean air legislation.

The sad fact of the matter is this, unless there is a multilateral approach to tackle climate change, nothing and I mean nothing we do as a nation will counteract the likes of the Chinese and their rampant use of coal fired power stations for instance.

The politicos may argue we should set an example, how naive do these clowns think the general public are, and the brainwashing the media slants on climate change is excruciatingly patronising.

I was cold called by a company offering a warranty on my washing machine last week, I told him I didn't want one, why? because I bought my washing machine when my eldest daughter was two years old.......she is 21 by the way.

Why do I insist on driving an old clapped out banger, when I can afford to buy a Tesla without credit, finance, or loan? because the main damage to the environment is caused in the energy used producing, low quality junk which is used then thrown away.

I recycle properly, and by which I don't mean washing out yoghurt pots for the local authority to send thousands of miles overseas to developing countries to "recycle" into their watercourses


As a conclusion to the question raised in the title of this thread, no vehicle, EV or internal combustion are the answer in the future, but I will say this I will as long as there is life in my body, enjoy driving my old bangers until the fuel required to propel them runs out, and be damned

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Brian - totally with you on housing policy like that - THAT does smell of back-handers from the building companies - or perhaps more incompetence in high places. I've dealt with incompetent so-called professionals in my former lives as a laboratory specialist and kitchen designer (in the latter, considered "not a proper job - so what do you know"). I'm not saying EVs are the solution, and undersea cobalt mining may, like fracking in this country, be killed before it ever gets going. But looking at the extent of the floods in south Yorkshire, and the rate of rainfall, I suspect you could have dredged the Don to three times its capacity all the way to the Humber, and it wouldn't have made much difference to the flooding, apart from perhaps a dangerously faster flow of floodwater across open ground. And you appear to agree, that Weather Incident Severity (I won't dare call it climate change again for fear of being labelled a Green Meanie!) is going to cost us a lot more money, - in flood prevention, fire fighting, imported food, insurance premiums etc. Sorry to be such a killjoy, but I'm sure some on here are burying their petrol-heads in the sand, and won't accept that there is anything to worry about.
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Wow 14 pages & 133 posts 134 with mine I can not believe this thread is still in the general forum for our cars, I thought it would have been moved to social forum after post 1

Trivial tangential query, but speaking only for myself of course, I only ever click "New posts" to see what gems have been added since my last visit. Doesn't matter to me which category posts are made, but maybe I trawl alone?
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Trivial tangential query, but speaking only for myself of course, I only ever click "New posts" to see what gems have been added since my last visit. Doesn't matter to me which category posts are made, but maybe I trawl alone?
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And I would have left a note on his nose! loud mouth cent. Chris.S.
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Aahhh global warming, global change, global cooling. Herd? The lot in my nigh on 80 years.It is begining to nark me a bit about people’s incessant carping on about it. It is now being used as a cash cow for big businesses, and little girls who have just discovered life on this planet is variable, very variable. I can remember in the 50s when we had the six weeks holiday from Skool. We used to play cricket on a patch of ground down the bottom of our road, and for the whole six weeks it was stiflingly hot. We used to love it when you could smell the rain was coming in the air. We used to have violent storms during the day when it went as black as night. We used to have 3/4 feet of snow in winter. We used to have very high winds that blew thousands of trees down all over Great Britain now and again. We were told in the 50s that we were entering a mini ice age. (Still waiting for it to arrive). Big business have cottoned on to the fact that people are gullible to certain suggestions. The reason being..............they can make billions out of fear factors like ‘The End Of The World Is Nigh’. Funnily enough, I can remember old chaps with nothing better to do than walk round with signs which said ‘The End Of The World Is Nigh’ in the 50s/60s. Another thing comes to mind..................what goes round comes round. Hysterics come to mind and greed. This is not a rant, it is pure facts. My thoughts are with those people who are at this moment under water up the north. Don’t let the ‘experts’ tell you it is going to happen more and more, although partly true, it is because of their inefficient ways of management of waterways it is happening. And again it is because of the money factor.
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sorry David but I though you realized that you and your generation are a load of knuckle dragging, fascist thicko's who have spent your life raping the planet of its riches and spoiling everything for the "wokes" Shame on you. Chris S.

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