Bonnie scotland

mbev51 · 30th April 2021, 07:48

Hi, just enjoying the morning sun from outside our van in a caravan site in Dumfries and Galaway. It’s a lovely part of the world, the cycling is so good. We only live 35 minutes south of the border in Cumbria so it’s no distance to come here. We are seriously going to look at house prices here near the coast with a view to buying in the near future.

Darcydog · 30th April 2021, 08:10

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Originally Posted by mbev51

Hi, just enjoying the morning sun from outside our van in a caravan site in Dumfries and Galaway. It’s a lovely part of the world, the cycling is so good. We only live 35 minutes south of the border in Cumbria so it’s no distance to come here. We are seriously going to look at house prices here near the coast with a view to buying in the near future.

Good idea - it will save the need for a passport (hopefully) in the near future.

mbev51 · 3rd May 2021, 07:34

The thought of Scottish independence horrifies me. I live 35 minutes from the non existent border. I fully understand the argument that Scotland has been dragged out of the EU against its Will, but 5 years of further Brexit type negotiations, arguments where the UK government takes the role of the EU and the Scottish government become the ‘brexiteers’ appalls me.

Darcydog · 3rd May 2021, 08:07

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Originally Posted by mbev51

The thought of Scottish independence horrifies me. I live 35 minutes from the non existent border. I fully understand the argument that Scotland has been dragged out of the EU against its Will, but 5 years of further Brexit type negotiations, arguments where the UK government takes the role of the EU and the Scottish government become the ‘brexiteers’ appalls me.

I totally support Scottish Independence. And I’m about a Scottish as a Cornish Pasty.

I think they should go it alone because it’s been on their agenda for decades. But I don’t think the U.K. becomes the equivalent of the EU - nor do I think Scotland becomes equivalent to the U.K. leaving the EU.

For a start, the money flows the other way.

The U.K. paid the EU a net sum of about £8billion a year (Actual sum was nearly double that but we got nearly half back via EU sponsored projects but the EU dictated where and how this rebated sum was spent.

In contrast, last year - for every £1000 per head raised via taxes for the Government of the Day to spend on running the country - England had £9,296 to spend per head - whilst Scotland received £11,247.

That is a whisker under 21% higher funding for Scotland.

Quite how the SNP will balance the books without the rest of the U.K. (and England in the main) bailing it out will be an interesting thing to watch.

So does England want to keep giving money to Scotland when Scotland’s Public Sector spend was £81billion but its total revenue was just £66billion?

And this shortfall is plugged primarily by English Taxpayers alone.

The Labour MP for Edinburgh South, Ian Murray, recently pointed out that the above £15billion deficit is “the entire annual cost of Scotland’s NHS!”

So for those of us in England paying for all this and all we get in return is Scotland constantly referring to us as the “Olde enemy” - Scottish Independence looks like a very good thing indeed.

I think there is a sure fire way for Scotland to win an independence vote - and that is to let the English vote.

macafee2 · 3rd May 2021, 09:07

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Originally Posted by mbev51

The thought of Scottish independence horrifies me. I live 35 minutes from the non existent border. I fully understand the argument that Scotland has been dragged out of the EU against its Will, but 5 years of further Brexit type negotiations, arguments where the UK government takes the role of the EU and the Scottish government become the ‘brexiteers’ appalls me.

were they, I thought they had voted not to be independent?

macafee2

mbev51 · 3rd May 2021, 10:53

If the SNP get in, there’ll be another referendum.

Mr bountyfull · 3rd May 2021, 11:34

Scot living in Cumbria. Will Scotland under the SNP seek independence, always. Does that mean independence is inevitable, no. I would say there is and will be for sometime a majority against independence, however with FPTP the SNP will be around for a very long time. With that they will try and pick the fight when it best suits the cause. The case will never be based on hard facts just emotions and so long as the likes of the SNP can mask the facts from their supporters the case will be strong, as facts mean nothing to many.

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mbev51 Banned Removed Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Removed Posts: 1,343 Thanks: 171 Thanked 315 Times in 223 Posts	Bonnie scotland Hi, just enjoying the morning sun from outside our van in a caravan site in Dumfries and Galaway. It’s a lovely part of the world, the cycling is so good. We only live 35 minutes south of the border in Cumbria so it’s no distance to come here. We are seriously going to look at house prices here near the coast with a view to buying in the near future.

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mbev51 Banned Removed Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Removed Posts: 1,343 Thanks: 171 Thanked 315 Times in 223 Posts	The thought of Scottish independence horrifies me. I live 35 minutes from the non existent border. I fully understand the argument that Scotland has been dragged out of the EU against its Will, but 5 years of further Brexit type negotiations, arguments where the UK government takes the role of the EU and the Scottish government become the ‘brexiteers’ appalls me.

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mbev51 Banned Removed Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Removed Posts: 1,343 Thanks: 171 Thanked 315 Times in 223 Posts	If the SNP get in, there’ll be another referendum.

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Mr bountyfull Gets stuck in MGZTV8 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Newbury Posts: 567 Thanks: 173 Thanked 82 Times in 58 Posts	Scot living in Cumbria. Will Scotland under the SNP seek independence, always. Does that mean independence is inevitable, no. I would say there is and will be for sometime a majority against independence, however with FPTP the SNP will be around for a very long time. With that they will try and pick the fight when it best suits the cause. The case will never be based on hard facts just emotions and so long as the likes of the SNP can mask the facts from their supporters the case will be strong, as facts mean nothing to many.