Trim level on late-build cars

Edward Huggins · 7th September 2015, 14:31

Whilst my (just bought) 55 registered Rover 75 CDTi is specified in the service manual/registration document as being in the "Classic" trim level - it has far more on it than that trim level would suggest. It has full leather seating, folding rear seat, ski hatch, twin horns, illuminated vanity mirriors, full spare wheel, driver's side grab handle, twin rear cupholders, electric windows all round.....and probably more not yet discovered. What was happening on the line in those last few weeks that would have contributed to this? ED

suffolk boy · 7th September 2015, 14:35

some where upgraded at the factory to include the leather.these where called campain models.however this would definatly not include the grab handle or the twin horns.these items where deleted years before.so it looks like someone has upgraded it for you ie the previous owner

Neil Coupland · 7th September 2015, 15:15

Towards the end of production some elements of project drive seem to have been reversed. My Contemporary SE was built late March 2005 and it has twin horns and drivers grab handle fitted.

Groundhog · 7th September 2015, 15:36

My 05 Classic is similar Edward

It came with drivers grab handle, illuminated vanity mirrors, all round electric windows and all the electric wiring was there for cruise/rear blind and electric/heated seats, A pillar air bags and more

BigRuss · 8th September 2015, 11:11

Toward the end of production all bets are off as regards what would you would expect for standard equipment levels for the various models

It's a sad fact that the factory was running out of various parts as they didn't have the money to pay their suppliers, that's what caused the eventual closure.

Some cars lost spec and others gained it to try and maintain differences in model specs.

For example my 05 Connie SE only had half the drivers intelligence pack fitted (no rain sensing wipers or auto dimming mirror) a customers car a couple of cars later than mine an MG+ model had them both fitted.

I suspect the reason most 05 plate cars have curtain airbags was either to try to up the spec a little to compensate for missing features or that they had possibly run out of headlinings or associated trim

Russ

Bolin · 8th September 2015, 20:52

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Originally Posted by BigRuss

I suspect the reason most 05 plate cars have curtain airbags was either to try to up the spec a little to compensate for missing features or that they had possibly run out of headlinings or associated trim

The last spec brochure for 2005 models (from about Jan 2005 I think) does list curtain airbags as standard, so I think that would have been a while before the problems with suppliers.

Twin horns sounds odd, thought they needed extra wiring that was deleted as part of project drive.

Presumably the driver's grab handle was because they ran out of blanks?

pletevl · 9th September 2015, 13:15

My 2005 model has the drivers grab handle, leather electric heated seats, curtain airbags, the wiring for the second horn (not yet installed the horn), traffic master and cruise control.

Pete

EastPete · 9th September 2015, 13:31

My 2005 build CDTi classic ('poverty spec') actually came with 7 spoke alloys, ski hatch, silver bullet door mirrors and illuminated vanity mirrors. And it has rear parking sensors too.

Pete

grivas · 9th September 2015, 16:41

Towards the end of the road, everything was on, if it was in the bin then it was fitted, specification went out of window, so this is why the strange spec on the late cars, some better some worse, the panic had set in, then the plug was pulled and the lights went out, and a 100 years of car making down the toilet.. and with that a bit of history, and 5000 people out of a job.

Edward Huggins · 9th September 2015, 17:30

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Originally Posted by grivas

Towards the end of the road, everything was on, if it was in the bin then it was fitted, specification went out of window, so this is why the strange spec on the late cars, some better some worse, the panic had set in, then the plug was pulled and the lights went out, and a 100 years of car making down the toilet.. and with that a bit of history, and 5000 people out of a job.

The ever resourceful REEBS has advised that my just bought, fully loaded CDTi "Classic" is the SVP version - SPECIAL VALUE PRODUCT. Mine was made just 3 weeks before the end and it's fully loaded. I keep finding things on it all the time that would not normally be available on the Classic trim level.

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Edward Huggins Avid contributor Rover 75 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Southwold Posts: 130 Thanks: 15 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Trim level on late-build cars Whilst my (just bought) 55 registered Rover 75 CDTi is specified in the service manual/registration document as being in the "Classic" trim level - it has far more on it than that trim level would suggest. It has full leather seating, folding rear seat, ski hatch, twin horns, illuminated vanity mirriors, full spare wheel, driver's side grab handle, twin rear cupholders, electric windows all round.....and probably more not yet discovered. What was happening on the line in those last few weeks that would have contributed to this? ED

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BigRuss Premium Trader 75 CDT Tourer,2.5 Launch Saloon, Omipro MG/Rover (T4) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Liversedge, West Yorkshire Posts: 5,405 Thanks: 1,105 Thanked 1,340 Times in 661 Posts	Toward the end of production all bets are off as regards what would you would expect for standard equipment levels for the various models It's a sad fact that the factory was running out of various parts as they didn't have the money to pay their suppliers, that's what caused the eventual closure. Some cars lost spec and others gained it to try and maintain differences in model specs. For example my 05 Connie SE only had half the drivers intelligence pack fitted (no rain sensing wipers or auto dimming mirror) a customers car a couple of cars later than mine an MG+ model had them both fitted. I suspect the reason most 05 plate cars have curtain airbags was either to try to up the spec a little to compensate for missing features or that they had possibly run out of headlinings or associated trim Russ __________________ Replacement Key Service http://https://the75andztclub.co.uk/...d.php?t=244732 Full T4 Testbook diagnostics available. Diesel ECU repair and replacement. Options enabled or disabled as required. Diesel X-Power 135 and 160bhp, Rover 1.8T 150 to 160 MG 160 V6 to 177 upgrades available P.M. for details.

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Neil Coupland Gets stuck in Range Rover Sport, MG TF 160 Aubergine Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nottingham Posts: 693 Thanks: 21 Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts	Towards the end of production some elements of project drive seem to have been reversed. My Contemporary SE was built late March 2005 and it has twin horns and drivers grab handle fitted.

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Groundhog Posted a thing or two Citroen C5 Aircross Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Durham Coast Posts: 1,140 Thanks: 161 Thanked 622 Times in 301 Posts	My 05 Classic is similar Edward It came with drivers grab handle, illuminated vanity mirrors, all round electric windows and all the electric wiring was there for cruise/rear blind and electric/heated seats, A pillar air bags and more

9th September 2015, 13:15	#7
pletevl Posted a thing or two rover 75 cdti(rhd), MG ZR(lhd), MG TF(lhd), MG TF(rhd), mini mpi (lhd), Renault megane III (awful) Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: East of France Posts: 1,278 Thanks: 124 Thanked 114 Times in 93 Posts	My 2005 model has the drivers grab handle, leather electric heated seats, curtain airbags, the wiring for the second horn (not yet installed the horn), traffic master and cruise control. Pete

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EastPete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Classic saloon, MGB GT, Skoda Yeti Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ramsey, Cambs Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 626 Thanked 635 Times in 430 Posts	My 2005 build CDTi classic ('poverty spec') actually came with 7 spoke alloys, ski hatch, silver bullet door mirrors and illuminated vanity mirrors. And it has rear parking sensors too. Pete

9th September 2015, 16:41	#9
grivas I really should get out more....... Rover 75 CDT Club Tourer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Milky Way Posts: 2,369 Thanks: 105 Thanked 513 Times in 382 Posts	Towards the end of the road, everything was on, if it was in the bin then it was fitted, specification went out of window, so this is why the strange spec on the late cars, some better some worse, the panic had set in, then the plug was pulled and the lights went out, and a 100 years of car making down the toilet.. and with that a bit of history, and 5000 people out of a job.