Advice on bmw 5 series sports tourer

kmtranter · 12th April 2018, 14:25

It looks like the repair on my ztt will be more than the cars worth so am considering its replacement. I like that opening window on my ztt and have only seen the 5 series to offer this. I was just wandering if anyone has any advice, it will be more likely the 2.0 diesel, but it will have to be a high mileage model. Also as rover/mg use the bmw 2.0 diesel will it still be a timing chain instead of cam belt.

slovcan · 12th April 2018, 14:37

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Originally Posted by kmtranter

It looks like the repair on my ztt will be more than the cars worth so am considering its replacement. I like that opening window on my ztt and have only seen the 5 series to offer this. I was just wandering if anyone has any advice, it will be more likely the 2.0 diesel, but it will have to be a high mileage model. Also as rover/mg use the bmw 2.0 diesel will it still be a timing chain instead of cam belt.

I always liked the 5 Series. As far as the diesel goes, the older ones had the M47 that the M47R Rover engine is in basic terms, BUT there are some problematic differences on the original BMW ones. Check to see which ones had swirl flaps - if any of the M47's did. They are trouble unless there is documentation proving they have been removed. The other thing about the BMW version is the turbo. They use a Variable Vane unit that is not as reliable as the basic type on the Rover. The newer 2.0 BMW engine is the M74 (I think) and it has got a lot of bad reviews for failures. It either has a cam belt or a weak cam chain.

I'd be looking for either an old 2.5 TD or 3.0 D, making sure the one I chose didn't have swirl flaps. In some cases the manual transmission cars came without swirl flaps while the automatic transmission ones had them.

Don't forget the 3 Series Tourer with the 2.5 or 3.0 diesels (again, without swirl flaps). They can be hot rods.

Cheers,
Glenn

AndyN01 · 12th April 2018, 14:54

The dilemma here is......

Do you spend the money on getting the ZT-T back on the road OR

Find a "high mileage" BMW diesel?

It looks like you've owned the ZT-T for several years so by now know all the quirks and know how she's been looked after.

Only you can define what she's "worth" but it's not really her resale value because we all know that's not a particularly big number. What's a ZT-T with a duff high pressure pump worth in £'s? I'll guess not much.

And the unknown BMW???

A great car or a money pit just waiting for someone else's (your) wallet

.

There's plenty to choose from, from not a great deal of £££'s

I'm sure if you can find a "genuine" BMW it will be a great car.

Maybe a personal sale from one of the BMW forums might be a good place to look (if they have such a thing)?

I'd spend the money on keeping the ZT-T but obviously the decision is yours.

Good Luck.

Andy.

macafee2 · 12th April 2018, 15:07

I seem to recall that some BMW wheels suffer from cracking on the side that is not seen but I don't know which ones

macafee2

Amsca2 · 12th April 2018, 15:27

C5 has rear glass that opens on the tail. Not the prettiest but diesels are fairly robust. However nothing on a ztt or 75.

Fix the old bus.

kmtranter · 12th April 2018, 15:35

As you said nothing on a 75 or ztt

Drummer Boy · 12th April 2018, 18:58

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Originally Posted by kmtranter

It looks like the repair on my ztt will be more than the cars worth so am considering its replacement. I like that opening window on my ztt and have only seen the 5 series to offer this. I was just wandering if anyone has any advice, it will be more likely the 2.0 diesel, but it will have to be a high mileage model. Also as rover/mg use the bmw 2.0 diesel will it still be a timing chain instead of cam belt.

Might we ask what's wrong?

kmtranter · 12th April 2018, 19:04

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Originally Posted by Drummer Boy

Might we ask what's wrong?

High pressure fuel pump needs replacing to get the car going, on top will need to replace brake pads as light is on, followed by an abs sensor and finally windscreen washer to be done before mot.

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MSS · 12th April 2018, 19:30

Those are very small to small items compared with buying an unknown car with highish mileage.

If I was to buy a BMW 5-Series or Mercedes E-Class with 100k+ miles, I would set aside £2k to sort out all the "little issues".

kmtranter · 12th April 2018, 21:10

The main issue is the fuel pump, prior to breaking down i had a small fuel leak on the return side. But when overtaking the engine management light came on and lost power. I pulled into a layby the car stalled and wouldn't restart. I can't get the car to my mechanic so i dont know if anything else is wrong and instead of messing about trying to sort out the car without knowing whats being done will fix it or how long its going to take to fix i have to very regrettably look for an alternative as i need a car for work.
As you said buying a high mileage car can be problamatic and counter productive i am trying hard to think which way to go, and if i could find a 190 ztt with the same or better spec than mine i would have to consider it.

12th April 2018, 14:25	#1
kmtranter Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: earl shilton Posts: 230 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Advice on bmw 5 series sports tourer It looks like the repair on my ztt will be more than the cars worth so am considering its replacement. I like that opening window on my ztt and have only seen the 5 series to offer this. I was just wandering if anyone has any advice, it will be more likely the 2.0 diesel, but it will have to be a high mileage model. Also as rover/mg use the bmw 2.0 diesel will it still be a timing chain instead of cam belt.

12th April 2018, 14:54	#3
AndyN01 This is my second home Toyota RAV4 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tamworth Posts: 3,070 Thanks: 2,478 Thanked 1,579 Times in 968 Posts	The dilemma here is...... Do you spend the money on getting the ZT-T back on the road OR Find a "high mileage" BMW diesel? It looks like you've owned the ZT-T for several years so by now know all the quirks and know how she's been looked after. Only you can define what she's "worth" but it's not really her resale value because we all know that's not a particularly big number. What's a ZT-T with a duff high pressure pump worth in £'s? I'll guess not much. And the unknown BMW??? A great car or a money pit just waiting for someone else's (your) wallet . There's plenty to choose from, from not a great deal of £££'s I'm sure if you can find a "genuine" BMW it will be a great car. Maybe a personal sale from one of the BMW forums might be a good place to look (if they have such a thing)? I'd spend the money on keeping the ZT-T but obviously the decision is yours. Good Luck. Andy. __________________ Andy. http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ Last edited by AndyN01; 12th April 2018 at 15:52..

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Amsca2 Gets stuck in MG ZT-T cdti Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Grangemouth Posts: 521 Thanks: 60 Thanked 93 Times in 80 Posts	C5 has rear glass that opens on the tail. Not the prettiest but diesels are fairly robust. However nothing on a ztt or 75. Fix the old bus. __________________ The Typhoon Bull

12th April 2018, 15:07	#4
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,926 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	I seem to recall that some BMW wheels suffer from cracking on the side that is not seen but I don't know which ones macafee2

12th April 2018, 15:35	#6
kmtranter Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: earl shilton Posts: 230 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	As you said nothing on a 75 or ztt

12th April 2018, 19:30	#9
MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,084 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	Those are very small to small items compared with buying an unknown car with highish mileage. If I was to buy a BMW 5-Series or Mercedes E-Class with 100k+ miles, I would set aside £2k to sort out all the "little issues".

12th April 2018, 21:10	#10
kmtranter Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: earl shilton Posts: 230 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	The main issue is the fuel pump, prior to breaking down i had a small fuel leak on the return side. But when overtaking the engine management light came on and lost power. I pulled into a layby the car stalled and wouldn't restart. I can't get the car to my mechanic so i dont know if anything else is wrong and instead of messing about trying to sort out the car without knowing whats being done will fix it or how long its going to take to fix i have to very regrettably look for an alternative as i need a car for work. As you said buying a high mileage car can be problamatic and counter productive i am trying hard to think which way to go, and if i could find a 190 ztt with the same or better spec than mine i would have to consider it.