May as well cancel the Veyron

[trikey]

Originally Posted by It runs

I'm fine with this .
Their is a direct link with speed and collisions.
Tailgating , jumping red lights and speeding .?
You may aswel knock a few glasses of whiskey in aswel
It's the same result .
a collision and a death or serious injury is almost guaranteed.
When I an teaching somone to drive a really push the road safety aspects of driving.

Only 30% of deaths on the roads are attributed to speeding (And before anyone jumps in - I do agree its still too many)

My gripe is, they ALWAYS blame speeding, what abut the other 70% of deaths on the road?

Let me hazard a guess that speeding is the easy target, cameras = revenue, increased insurance premiums = profit.

How about the authorities reward drivers that have never accrued a penalty point?

Nope, speeding always gets blamed.

[It runs]

That's fine then we will have 30% less deaths.
It's a win win really

[trikey]

Originally Posted by It runs

That's fine then we will have 30% less deaths.
It's a win win really

Why not as much publicity on the other causes though?

[SCP440]

Some new cars already have a version of this. A mates new
Volvo goes to the legal limit and he has to push the pedal a lot harder to go any faster and then it beeps loudly at you until you go back to the legal limit.

He is looking into having it switched off. The dealer can do this but won't.

He has said if he had known he probably would have bought an older one.

[marinabrian]

Originally Posted by It runs

I'm fine with this .
Their is a direct link with speed and collisions.
Tailgating , jumping red lights and speeding .?
You may aswel knock a few glasses of whiskey in aswel
It's the same result .
a collision and a death or serious injury is almost guaranteed.
When I an teaching somone to drive a really push the road safety aspects of driving.

I happen to disagree with the first line of your statement, speed is not in itself inherently dangerous, but the inappropriate use of speed.

And as the proclamation of drink driving and jumping red lights, what does that have to do with speed limiting on cars?

Finally, why not simply teach someone to drive safely?, speed is only a factor if the driver is unaware of the consequence of it's misuse.

I was taught to drive in a fashion that was mechanically sympathetic, and to be courteous and considerate to other road users.

The flaw in the system is just like many other nanny rubbish found in modern cars, although the system is active at the start of each journey, it can be turned off.

Brian

[It runs]

Can I point out the DVSA logo safe driving for life
In 1966 despite the roads not being having anything like the traffic of today
7500 deaths .
Last year 1800 .
. Still 1800 to many so every little helps as they say at Tesco

The safe driving for life was created with reference staying alive .
Sorry I don't get on my soap box very often and I don't wish to offend

[Lancpudn]

Originally Posted by Typhoon190

It'll be quite amusing in some cases. 2023 multi thousand pound prestige motor being overtaken on the motorway by old bangers.

From what I've read in the not too distant future of vehicles, cars that are not equipped with 5G & V2X will not be able share the same piece of tarmac If vehicles cant communicate with each other & street furniture they will be barred from those stretches of roads in the new world order Scary future https://otonomo.io/blog/v2x-connected-vehicles/

[trikey]

Originally Posted by It runs

Can I point out the DVSA logo safe driving for life
In 1966 despite the roads not being having anything like the traffic of today
7500 deaths .
Last year 1800 .
. Still 1800 to many so every little helps as they say at Tesco

The safe driving for life was created with reference staying alive .
Sorry I don't get on my soap box very often and I don't wish to offend

So what do the figures tell us?

In 1966, we had less traffic but more deaths, I would hazard a guess the death toll was higher as joe public wasn't wearing a seat belt and had less to do with speeding.

Lets cut to the chase, if speed is the nasty killer that we are led to believe, why do they put cameras on roads in the wilds of Northumbria and not outside of every school in the land?

Its not about speed.. its about revenue, the powers that be couldn't give a toss about road fatalities, imagine how upset they would be if every driver drove under the speed limits and cut off their income from the cameras...

[It runs]

Originally Posted by trikey

So what do the figures tell us?

In 1966, we had less traffic but more deaths, I would hazard a guess the death toll was higher as joe public wasn't wearing a seat belt and had less to do with speeding.

Lets cut to the chase, if speed is the nasty killer that we are led to believe, why do they put cameras on roads in the wilds of Northumbria and not outside of every school in the land?

Its not about speed.. its about revenue, the powers that be couldn't give a toss about road fatalities, imagine how upset they would be if every driver drove under the speed limits and cut off their income from the cameras...

The majority of collisions on the road are through loss of control .
If drivers didn't speed they wouldn't loos control the 2 go hand in hand.
This is a wall I face regular
I will not comment any more as we are all here to get on and share information to help not to hinder
Regards

[itcaptainslow]

Originally Posted by It runs

The majority of collisions on the road are through loss of control .
If drivers didn't speed they wouldn't loos control the 2 go hand in hand.
This is a wall I face regular
I will not comment any more as we are all here to get on and share information to help not to hinder
Regards

The most common cause of a collision in the UK is “Failure to look properly”, followed by “Failure to judge third party speed/path”. (Source; https://www.statista.com/statistics/...at-britain-uk/ )

Neither of those are due to excessive speed, and everything to do with poor driving ability/attitude. Unfortunately these take time, and are more difficult to address, than using a blunt instrument of speed camera.

If the driving test in the UK was to IAM/ROSPA standards and based around Roadcraft principles, I’d wager we’d have far fewer collisions and lower KSI stats as a direct result.