Indiscriminate non starter

mark553 · 14th May 2021, 05:50

Good morning
My 75 is 18 years old done 52k miles has always been serviced etc , last August I started having problems starting , I could drive 20/30 miles no issues then stop for 5 minutes go back car would not start , leave it for a few hours or days even go back start and drive perfect , all good until now and it is doing the same again no warnings no lights on nothing , happened last night been out to it this morning started first time perfect . Any ideas please

Please note this is not a battery issue when i say no lights i mean warning lights /engine management lights I did have RAC out to it but the car started run perfect no fault codes came up either

cbr1100xx · 14th May 2021, 06:58

If it totally dead , not turning over at all it could be the small wire on the starter motor.
Next time it does it a quick wiggle on the spade connector should sort it.
If it does give the blade a clean up of corrosion.

Happened to me a few weeks ago

Stan

stocktake · 14th May 2021, 07:07

As Stan above says if it's not turning over it is more than likely a starter problem. prime suspect is the light duty wire that connects to the starter solenoid, if not that then it will be the solenoid contacts ( Kits available on Ebay for under £20.)
If you are saying the car turns over but will not fire and it appears to work OK when cooled down then the Cam sensor is favourite. First sign of failure is refusal to start when warm.

Ducati750cc · 14th May 2021, 07:10

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Originally Posted by mark553

Good morning
My 75 is 18 years old done 52k miles has always been serviced etc , last August I started having problems starting , I could drive 20/30 miles no issues then stop for 5 minutes go back car would not start , leave it for a few hours or days even go back start and drive perfect , all good until now and it is doing the same again no warnings no lights on nothing , happened last night been out to it this morning started first time perfect . Any ideas please

Is it 1) not turning over, or 2) turning over and not starting ?

FLYING BANANA · 14th May 2021, 07:15

Can you hear the fuel pump priming? Had this problem on my 1.8t.

COLVERT · 14th May 2021, 16:44

It's your CAM sensor Mark.-----

mbrenn · 14th May 2021, 21:16

I agree. Cam sensor. Had that before - same symtoms.

mark553 · 15th May 2021, 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbr1100xx

If it totally dead , not turning over at all it could be the small wire on the starter motor.
Next time it does it a quick wiggle on the spade connector should sort it.
If it does give the blade a clean up of corrosion.

Happened to me a few weeks ago

Stan

Thank you , not starter motor issue unfortunately

mark553 · 15th May 2021, 07:36

Hi yes I can hear fuel pump priming

mark553 · 15th May 2021, 07:37

Hi it turns over but does not fire

14th May 2021, 05:50	#1
mark553 Newbie fs51ale Join Date: May 2021 Location: GRIMSBY Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Indiscriminate non starter Good morning My 75 is 18 years old done 52k miles has always been serviced etc , last August I started having problems starting , I could drive 20/30 miles no issues then stop for 5 minutes go back car would not start , leave it for a few hours or days even go back start and drive perfect , all good until now and it is doing the same again no warnings no lights on nothing , happened last night been out to it this morning started first time perfect . Any ideas please Please note this is not a battery issue when i say no lights i mean warning lights /engine management lights I did have RAC out to it but the car started run perfect no fault codes came up either Last edited by mark553; 15th May 2021 at 07:31.. Reason: not enough info

14th May 2021, 06:58	#2
cbr1100xx Gets stuck in VW touareg Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: dunsop bridge Posts: 870 Thanks: 225 Thanked 414 Times in 235 Posts	If it totally dead , not turning over at all it could be the small wire on the starter motor. Next time it does it a quick wiggle on the spade connector should sort it. If it does give the blade a clean up of corrosion. Happened to me a few weeks ago Stan __________________ WE WERE BOTH BORN ON THE 4th of JULY CAR DIED 15/11/2022---I'M STILL GOING (JUST)

14th May 2021, 07:07	#3
stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,587 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	As Stan above says if it's not turning over it is more than likely a starter problem. prime suspect is the light duty wire that connects to the starter solenoid, if not that then it will be the solenoid contacts ( Kits available on Ebay for under £20.) If you are saying the car turns over but will not fire and it appears to work OK when cooled down then the Cam sensor is favourite. First sign of failure is refusal to start when warm. __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident Last edited by stocktake; 14th May 2021 at 07:56..

14th May 2021, 07:15	#5
FLYING BANANA Moderator/Club Shop MG ZT 1.8t+. No.3 of 4 in Sunspot Yellow & Ford Fiesta in Black. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rattler Farm Posts: 22,559 Thanks: 9,270 Thanked 15,645 Times in 6,806 Posts	Can you hear the fuel pump priming? Had this problem on my 1.8t. __________________ 233,431. That’s our second meet done, no.3 next weekend. onen hag oll

14th May 2021, 16:44	#6
COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	It's your CAM sensor Mark.-----

14th May 2021, 21:16	#7
mbrenn Loves to post Rover 75 Saloons Conn SE 2.0L V6 (2001) & Conn 2.0L CDTi (2003) Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dungannon Posts: 489 Thanks: 109 Thanked 110 Times in 100 Posts	I agree. Cam sensor. Had that before - same symtoms.

15th May 2021, 07:36	#9
mark553 Newbie fs51ale Join Date: May 2021 Location: GRIMSBY Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hi yes I can hear fuel pump priming

15th May 2021, 07:37	#10
mark553 Newbie fs51ale Join Date: May 2021 Location: GRIMSBY Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hi it turns over but does not fire