Clutch judder but not as we know it

[heli flyer]

Morning all, having done various searches on here regarding clutch judder, I can't find one the same as mine. All is fine when cold, no judder, all is smooth and lovely. However, if I drive for say ten miles or so and then park, wait ten minutes, drive off again and I have bad judder in first and second gear. This also happens after driving for an hour or so without stopping.
Andy Willi changed clutch, master and slave about 18 months ago and all was fine for a while and when the judder started I didn't worry about it too much, I just adapted my driving style to avoid it as much as I could.
It seems to me as if it could be down to heat transfer, possibly due to a failing engine mount. I replaced the usual suspect, the lower engine mount, no difference.
Could it be one of the hydramounts?
Many thanks for any advice

[COLVERT]

From what you say it seems it's HEAT related.

Whether this can affect the engine mounts, though, I don't know.-

Could be someone has the answer on here though.--

[FrenchMike]

Flywheel dilatation ?

[murphyv310]

Oil on the friction surfaces, leaks from gearbox input shaft when warm? Try slipping the clutch on take off in say second, if that's a cure I'd go with my theory.

[heli flyer]

Thanks for your replies all. I have tried clutch slipping, first gear with handbrake etc. but no difference. Interesting thought about flywheel dilation, could you expand on this please? I am assuming that it's not the DMF as Andy checked this and if it was, I don't think temperature would make any difference. Thanks again,
Will.

[FrenchMike]

Originally Posted by heli flyer

Thanks for your replies all. I have tried clutch slipping, first gear with handbrake etc. but no difference. Interesting thought about flywheel dilation, could you expand on this please? I am assuming that it's not the DMF as Andy checked this and if it was, I don't think temperature would make any difference. Thanks again,
Will.

If DMF checked by Andy,be confident !

How is your biting point ?

Must be one third of the travel from floor

Mike

[minimutly]

Snap, i have the same issue, although mine is there from cold.
I just live with it, more revs help. To take it all to bits for such a small issue seems the wrong thing to do imho. I would also add, the luk clutch i had fitted stunk for months with just the slightest slipping, not impressed.

[heli flyer]

Thanks Mike,
Biting point is exactly right, I can still, after 18months or so, still push the pedal down using my thumb as Andy showed me!
Will

[DMGRS]

Check all engine mounts - Acorn mount on upper driver's side, alloy mount above the acorn mount, lower mount and gearbox side mount.

Any with excessive wear or tearing will make any judder a lot worse.
If you find one has had it, we have them all here: Engine Mounts - All Models

[bluemalbert]

Originally Posted by heli flyer

Morning all, having done various searches on here regarding clutch judder, I can't find one the same as mine. All is fine when cold, no judder, all is smooth and lovely. However, if I drive for say ten miles or so and then park, wait ten minutes, drive off again and I have bad judder in first and second gear. This also happens after driving for an hour or so without stopping.
Andy Willi changed clutch, master and slave about 18 months ago and all was fine for a while and when the judder started I didn't worry about it too much, I just adapted my driving style to avoid it as much as I could.
It seems to me as if it could be down to heat transfer, possibly due to a failing engine mount. I replaced the usual suspect, the lower engine mount, no difference.
Could it be one of the hydramounts?
Many thanks for any advice

Did you sort this out. I have exactly the same issue including Andy willi fitting all the same 7k back! Be really interested to know your findings. I don't see anything really in the thread below but don't understand the heat transfer! And flywheel dilation. Feel free to pm me if you have a moment. Y
Thanks