use the original TV antenna with the new head unit - Page 2

Bernard LPG · 5th February 2011, 19:04

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Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT

Only a tiny one

It only takes a few minutes in the 75, but unless you have a good reason not to - you could fit it all at the front. I deliberately fitted mine in the boot, to be able to do what I've just done, reused the Rover antennas.

[EDIT] Nearly forgot....

If you do put the TV in the boot, you will need to run L + R audio plus video RCA cables from it to the DD

Deep joy.

Will break all those trim clips again.

bryanfury75 · 28th January 2012, 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT

These are the special small bore Shotgun F-plugs I bought - Ebay Item number: 270285116784

I just ordered those ones but I still wonder :

wich connectors can you plug in the back of the DD (I have the Android one)
Wich coax are you using (diameter) ?

Thanks for your hard work !

suffolk boy · 28th January 2012, 20:33

you can buy purpose made adaptors they are mcx connectors to f plug

bryanfury75 · 29th January 2012, 09:51

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Originally Posted by suffolk boy

you can buy purpose made adaptors they are mcx connectors to f plug

Where have you found those ?? Found nothing on the Bay....

suffolk boy · 29th January 2012, 11:21

i have seen them on there.but in this case i did not buy them from there.i got mine from a company called park my auto.the man i spoke certainly knew his stuff .i have not used them yet which is annoying as i still waiting for a dvbt box to arrive.which i wish to god i got from park my auto as well. nevermind you live and learn i suppose

bryanfury75 · 30th January 2012, 16:44

Ok so I took a look under the boot carpet, then in the wheel well and found the 2 boxes. But take a look at the plugs :

I suppose that the 2 plugs (F-plugs ?) in the upper side are from the TV box. But look a the big connector in the bottom : is it the radio connector ? A proprietary one ?

HarryM1BYT · 30th January 2012, 17:07

The two plugs are for the TV receiver. They are not F-plugs and found I had to cut them off and fit F-plugs instead (I also could not find any adaptors). The coax is really too small to fit F-plugs, so I bought some intended for small coax called Shotgun F-Plugs, but even they were too big, so I had to pack out the coax with copper strip from CT-100 TV coax wrapped around it. I mounted the DVB-T in that well, so that those two could plug straight in and ran the A/V leads to the DD at the front. My TV reception is superb. I have documented it, just click on the link in my sig.

The other larger plug is for the radio and its an ISO. My DD came with an ISO to DIN adaptor and I initially used the adaptor. I later traced my poor reception to that adaptor, so I cut the ISO off and fitted a DIN plug. My radio reception is now pretty good.

bryanfury75 · 30th January 2012, 19:35

I'm sure the connector for TV and GPS is a standard one. I can't imagine how Rover, urged to reduce costs, went to developp a proprietary connector, it sounds crazy

So when I give a look at Wikipedia, here's the list I found :
Standard types

7/16 DIN connector, a high-power 50 Ω connector originally developed by Spinner[2]
BNC connector (Bayonet Neill-Concelman)
Blind mate BMA, also known as OSP (Omni Spectra push-on)
C connector (Concelman)
Dezifix connector, hermaphrodite connector used mainly by Rohde & Schwarz
F connector, used for domestic television installations and domestic satellite LNBs (75 Ω) world wide.
GR connector (General Radio)
HN connector, a high voltage version of the N connector
IEC 169-2 connector, also called Belling Lee connector or PAL, used throughout Europe and some other countries for domestic television installations and as FM connector for radio. It is standardized in EN 60169-2.
MiniQuick
Motorola connector, standard AM/FM antenna connector used for automotive radios
Musa connector, a 50 Ω connector used in telecommunications and broadcast video
N connector (Neill)
NMO mount (new Motorola mount), for removable mobile antennas. Large threaded base for durability in wind.
SC connector, screw version of C connector
SMA connector, SubMiniature version A - also listed below in SubMiniature - is a very popular lab equipment standard connector.
TNC connector (threaded Neill-Concelman)
Twin lead
UHF connector (e.g., PL-259/SO-239). Also referred to as an M-type connector by Japanese manufacturers such as Kenwood

Miniature types

Miniature BNC connectors
Miniature UHF connectors
DIN 47223 connectors
IPX connector
SMZ connector - System 43 (BT43 and High Density HD43) for use in DDF

Micro-miniature types

Sub-miniature types

MCX connector
MMCX connector
- FME connector
SMA connector, including variants:
- 3.5 and 2.92 mm connectors, which cross-mate with SMA, and
- 2.4, 1.85 and 1.0 mm connectors, which do not cross-mate with SMA
SMB connector
SMC connector
SMP connector

It HAS to be one of those, but which one ?

petergw60 · 30th January 2012, 23:31

It is an SMB connector.
You can buy plugs and jacks from CPC
http://cpc.farnell.com/multicomp/24-...amp/dp/CN10787
Above for a plug
http://cpc.farnell.com/multicomp/24-...amp/dp/CN10782
Above for the jack.
I bought some of these to extend my aerial from the boot to where I fitted the DVB module - worked OK!

HarryM1BYT · 30th January 2012, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryanfury75

I'm sure the connector for TV and GPS is a standard one. I can't imagine how Rover, urged to reduce costs, went to developp a proprietary connector, it sounds crazy

I guess Rover had to use the plugs, to suit the sockets on the BMW units.

28th January 2012, 20:33	#13
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30th January 2012, 19:35	#18
bryanfury75 Avid contributor MG ZT 190 MK2 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 208 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	I'm sure the connector for TV and GPS is a standard one. I can't imagine how Rover, urged to reduce costs, went to developp a proprietary connector, it sounds crazy So when I give a look at Wikipedia, here's the list I found : Standard types 7/16 DIN connector, a high-power 50 Ω connector originally developed by Spinner[2] BNC connector (Bayonet Neill-Concelman) Blind mate BMA, also known as OSP (Omni Spectra push-on) C connector (Concelman) Dezifix connector, hermaphrodite connector used mainly by Rohde & Schwarz F connector, used for domestic television installations and domestic satellite LNBs (75 Ω) world wide. GR connector (General Radio) HN connector, a high voltage version of the N connector IEC 169-2 connector, also called Belling Lee connector or PAL, used throughout Europe and some other countries for domestic television installations and as FM connector for radio. It is standardized in EN 60169-2. MiniQuick Motorola connector, standard AM/FM antenna connector used for automotive radios Musa connector, a 50 Ω connector used in telecommunications and broadcast video N connector (Neill) NMO mount (new Motorola mount), for removable mobile antennas. Large threaded base for durability in wind. SC connector, screw version of C connector SMA connector, SubMiniature version A - also listed below in SubMiniature - is a very popular lab equipment standard connector. TNC connector (threaded Neill-Concelman) Twin lead UHF connector (e.g., PL-259/SO-239). Also referred to as an M-type connector by Japanese manufacturers such as Kenwood Miniature types Miniature BNC connectors Miniature UHF connectors DIN 47223 connectors IPX connector SMZ connector - System 43 (BT43 and High Density HD43) for use in DDF Micro-miniature types IMP connector MMT connector MMS connector U.FL connector UMP connector Sub-miniature types MCX connector MMCX connector FME connector SMA connector, including variants: 3.5 and 2.92 mm connectors, which cross-mate with SMA, and 2.4, 1.85 and 1.0 mm connectors, which do not cross-mate with SMA SMB connector SMC connector SMP connector It HAS to be one of those, but which one ?

30th January 2012, 16:44	#16
bryanfury75 Avid contributor MG ZT 190 MK2 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 208 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Ok so I took a look under the boot carpet, then in the wheel well and found the 2 boxes. But take a look at the plugs : I suppose that the 2 plugs (F-plugs ?) in the upper side are from the TV box. But look a the big connector in the bottom : is it the radio connector ? A proprietary one ?

30th January 2012, 23:31	#19
petergw60 Regular poster Rover 75 Connoisseur SE CDT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: St Ives Posts: 90 Thanks: 12 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	It is an SMB connector. You can buy plugs and jacks from CPC http://cpc.farnell.com/multicomp/24-...amp/dp/CN10787 Above for a plug http://cpc.farnell.com/multicomp/24-...amp/dp/CN10782 Above for the jack. I bought some of these to extend my aerial from the boot to where I fitted the DVB module - worked OK!