MGR Head Unit/On Board Computer with Android OS? - Page 2

mh007 · 19th June 2011, 10:09

Hi Sean
Completely off topic about this particular unit.
I sent you an email on the 13th June asking about the situation with my replacement DD.
I haven't had a response so can only assume you haven't received it.
If this is the case, can you please provide an alternative email address or some way to contact you outside of the forum.
Thanks,
Mike

Departed 32016 · 19th June 2011, 10:19

i think a great idea but I take a recent sale of a car with a double din unit- the car sold for £1000 and he probably paid about £350 for the double din unit.

I can't understand why someone would pay a third or even more of the value of their car for a head unit? But then that's just my opinion.

I have a pioneer unit which I have had for a few years in different cars and has a mosfet amp with 55X4 output- every time I have asked about sound output on these unit- no one has given me an answer, I can only think because no one knows.

I have an iphone which does everything this unit would do and more and have no desire to pay this sort of money especially when I would rather keep the dosh for when and if something needs done on the ZT.

I mean £600? (if i've got my calculations correct?) That could get you an extremely decent head unit, fantastic speakers from a well known brand and a small netbook!

rovexCDTi · 19th June 2011, 10:34

In fairness, a good quality tab with these capabilities is not far off £400 anyway, but that would have a capacitive screen and faster CPU. However the full dash integration is worth a lot.

This would basically be, with a 3G card, a 7 inch smartphone with Android. Little else is as capable, however the extra $800 they want over the cost of a similar screened and CPU equipped tab, plus a basic CD player, some buttons and an amp is steep, especially since Android is free, and WinCE isnt.

Ive paid more than the entire cars value before for a head unit, but it was a standard DIN unit, so had more resale potential.

Departed 32016 · 19th June 2011, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by rovexCDTi

In fairness, a good quality tab with these capabilities is not far off £400 anyway, but that would have a capacitive screen and faster CPU. However the full dash integration is worth a lot.

This would basically be, with a 3G card, a 7 inch smartphone with Android. Little else is as capable, however the extra $800 they want over the cost of a similar screened and CPU equipped tab, plus a basic CD player, some buttons and an amp is steep, especially since Android is free, and WinCE isnt.

Ive paid more than the entire cars value before for a head unit, but it was a standard DIN unit, so had more resale potential.

£400? You're talking less than half that for a decent tab with simiar spec... I paid £150 for one with built in 3g recently

rovexCDTi · 19th June 2011, 10:45

I did say it would have a capacitive screen and better CPU.

rizel23 · 19th June 2011, 11:36

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Originally Posted by kieranswood

£400? You're talking less than half that for a decent tab with simiar spec... I paid £150 for one with built in 3g recently

what model was that please kieran?

Radioguy · 19th June 2011, 12:56

Maybe I am wrong but I think may people consider this car a modern Classic and value is not really the issue ? and rightfully so... They are beautiful cars.
But isn't it more the "hobby-slash-love of the cars" than the value ?

rovexCDTi · 19th June 2011, 13:03

I would say the ZT/75 is less of a commodity than say a Mondeo or even an Audi or VW. Its something to invest time in, not just a tool with a market value.

Jakg · 19th June 2011, 16:08

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Originally Posted by kieranswood

I have a pioneer unit which I have had for a few years in different cars and has a mosfet amp with 55X4 output- every time I have asked about sound output on these unit- no one has given me an answer, I can only think because no one knows.

Just to point out, 55x4 means nothing.

Most headunits from decent companies (Alpine, Kenwood etc) are branded as 4x50w, however come with a 10A fuse - which means the most it could draw is 144w at 14.4v (and you'd never spec a 10A fuse if that was the normal current draw), which is 4x36w... And of course no amp is 100% efficient, so if we assume 80% efficiency (which would be a real feat tbh) your looking at 115w, or 4x29w max, thats not even RMS... And thats not even taking into account the power for the screen, CD mech etcetcetc.

Most HU's put out 4x~18w RMS, which is frankly rubbish. And that says nothing for the quality of the sound itself...

(only exception is some TOP end Alpine units which work at 16v internally to try get more power out of their amps, but still only 25w RMS ish)

I'd imagine the Chinese units will be marketed as 4x50w, but in reality will of course produce much less. If your worried about the sound quality, play back via your iPod as on pretty much all headunits (beside a few Alpines) the iPod's DAC is used leaving the HU less to do. Although I still imagine that the quality of the audio components will be nothing special (compared to a "normal" headunit).

Although I'm sure for having insulted it I'm about to get a wave of "well it sounds great to me playing my 128kbps MP3's on my stock speakers" posts...

Departed 32016 · 19th June 2011, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakg

Just to point out, 55x4 means nothing.

Most headunits from decent companies (Alpine, Kenwood etc) are branded as 4x50w, however come with a 10A fuse - which means the most it could draw is 144w at 14.4v (and you'd never spec a 10A fuse if that was the normal current draw), which is 4x36w... And of course no amp is 100% efficient, so if we assume 80% efficiency (which would be a real feat tbh) your looking at 115w, or 4x29w max, thats not even RMS... And thats not even taking into account the power for the

I'd imagine the Chinese units will be marketed as 4x50w, but in reality will of course produce much less. If your worried about the sound quality, play back via your iPod as on

Although I'm sure for having insulted it I'wave of "well it sounds great to me playing my 128kbps MP3's on my stock speakers" posts...

The pioneer unit I have with my upgraded speakers and wireing will definately be better sound quality I am sure. I agree about the whole 55x4 and we can get into the Rms and pmpo discussion but it's allows a typical comparison of head unit outputs. Call my a cynic but I'd rather spend my hard earned cash on a well know brand such as pioneer, alpine or Sony all day long against an unbranded unit... But hey that's just me

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19th June 2011, 10:34	#13
rovexCDTi This is my second home MG ZT+ 135 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Exeter Posts: 3,626 Thanks: 9 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	In fairness, a good quality tab with these capabilities is not far off £400 anyway, but that would have a capacitive screen and faster CPU. However the full dash integration is worth a lot. This would basically be, with a 3G card, a 7 inch smartphone with Android. Little else is as capable, however the extra $800 they want over the cost of a similar screened and CPU equipped tab, plus a basic CD player, some buttons and an amp is steep, especially since Android is free, and WinCE isnt. Ive paid more than the entire cars value before for a head unit, but it was a standard DIN unit, so had more resale potential. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

19th June 2011, 10:45	#15
rovexCDTi This is my second home MG ZT+ 135 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Exeter Posts: 3,626 Thanks: 9 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	I did say it would have a capacitive screen and better CPU. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

19th June 2011, 13:03	#18
rovexCDTi This is my second home MG ZT+ 135 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Exeter Posts: 3,626 Thanks: 9 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	I would say the ZT/75 is less of a commodity than say a Mondeo or even an Audi or VW. Its something to invest time in, not just a tool with a market value. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

19th June 2011, 10:09	#11
mh007 This is my second home MG ZT260 SE, MG ZT190+, MG ZTT 160, R75 Conn SE 2.0, R75 Conn SE 2.5 X 3, R75 Club SE 1.8, P5B Coupe Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Keynsham, Bristol Posts: 4,211 Thanks: 65 Thanked 635 Times in 499 Posts	Hi Sean Completely off topic about this particular unit. I sent you an email on the 13th June asking about the situation with my replacement DD. I haven't had a response so can only assume you haven't received it. If this is the case, can you please provide an alternative email address or some way to contact you outside of the forum. Thanks, Mike

19th June 2011, 10:19	#12
Departed 32016 This is my second home Rover 75 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 5,190 Thanks: 101 Thanked 257 Times in 145 Posts	i think a great idea but I take a recent sale of a car with a double din unit- the car sold for £1000 and he probably paid about £350 for the double din unit. I can't understand why someone would pay a third or even more of the value of their car for a head unit? But then that's just my opinion. I have a pioneer unit which I have had for a few years in different cars and has a mosfet amp with 55X4 output- every time I have asked about sound output on these unit- no one has given me an answer, I can only think because no one knows. I have an iphone which does everything this unit would do and more and have no desire to pay this sort of money especially when I would rather keep the dosh for when and if something needs done on the ZT. I mean £600? (if i've got my calculations correct?) That could get you an extremely decent head unit, fantastic speakers from a well known brand and a small netbook!

19th June 2011, 12:56	#17
Radioguy Banned None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Here on the Forum Posts: 5,352 Thanks: 632 Thanked 822 Times in 573 Posts	Maybe I am wrong but I think may people consider this car a modern Classic and value is not really the issue ? and rightfully so... They are beautiful cars. But isn't it more the "hobby-slash-love of the cars" than the value ?