Do you practice "Dutch reach"?

MissMoppet · 30th December 2021, 16:51

No I'd never heard of it either but apparently there's a new Highway Code out that says that car driver's opening their doors "Should open car doors using the “Dutch reach” method, with the hand on the opposite side to the door they are opening. This makes drivers turn their heads to look over their shoulders and reduces the likelihood of “dooring” a passing cyclist."

Sounds sensible to me - as an ex racing (but slow) cyclist - but don't know how the Dutch got involved except for the obvious clue that Holland has more cyclists per sq pothole than us.

To ignore the H Code could be a criminal offence, so let's Go Dutch chaps.

macafee2 · 30th December 2021, 17:30

Heard of it but don't use it unless very windy and the wind may catch the door and it fly open.
Will it be law or a recommendation or a suggestion?

A bit confusing, some say January 2022 but I found this
https://www.dsabooks.co.uk/product_i...roducts_id=279

macafee2

stevestrat · 30th December 2021, 18:11

A "Dutch Reach" . . . . sounds like a position that features in one of those DVDs that arrives in a plain brown wrapper

Nobby · 30th December 2021, 18:31

I usually wait until the cyclist is in striking range before opening the door

Lancpudn · 30th December 2021, 18:47

I only learned of this a couple of weeks ago by chance. It may become a well known phrase here as well in the not too distant future the way things are going. Get yer bike clips ready.

https://imgur.com/a/R2LRKBN

COLVERT · 30th December 2021, 22:29

Another thing for me to not worry about.--

I live in France and have an RHD car.----

Nick Greg · 31st January 2022, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevestrat

A "Dutch Reach" . . . . sounds like a position that features in one of those DVDs that arrives in a plain brown wrapper

I know. Brilliant DVD if I may say so......

rab60bit · 1st January 2022, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissMoppet

No I'd never heard of it either but apparently there's a new Highway Code out that says that car driver's opening their doors "Should open car doors using the “Dutch reach” method, with the hand on the opposite side to the door they are opening. This makes drivers turn their heads to look over their shoulders and reduces the likelihood of “dooring” a passing cyclist."

Sounds sensible to me - as an ex racing (but slow) cyclist - but don't know how the Dutch got involved except for the obvious clue that Holland has more cyclists per sq pothole than us.

To ignore the H Code could be a criminal offence, so let's Go Dutch chaps.

Sounds like a recipe for an increase in lower back damage to me

Borg Warner · 30th January 2022, 14:06

As usual this has been poorly communicated, as well as thought out.

Can't wait to see the courts filled with cases where someone has been reported for not applying the new rules and either injured or worse.

JIC:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...9-january-2022

I shall just walk into the road now at a junction, knowing full well that should I be killed or injured the car driver is to blame.

As for the Dutch Reach? Well I can just as easily not turn my head to look over my shoulder by using my left arm.

This is going to end in tears I fear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SijcWitntPw&t=1s

Arctic · 30th January 2022, 14:31

It looks like we will now need side cameras as well as the front a& rear we have already, there is going to be some rear enders when turning left if a bike is there, and you are indicating and do not make the manoeuvre, as the car behind is most likely thinking you are going to.

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macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,929 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	Heard of it but don't use it unless very windy and the wind may catch the door and it fly open. Will it be law or a recommendation or a suggestion? A bit confusing, some say January 2022 but I found this https://www.dsabooks.co.uk/product_i...roducts_id=279 macafee2 Last edited by macafee2; 30th December 2021 at 17:41..

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stevestrat This is my second home ZT260 #243 (resting) Join Date: May 2010 Location: Prestonpans Posts: 22,484 Thanks: 650 Thanked 4,624 Times in 3,358 Posts	A "Dutch Reach" . . . . sounds like a position that features in one of those DVDs that arrives in a plain brown wrapper __________________ Steve T4 Location Map

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Lancpudn This is my second home MG ZS EV Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 15,587 Thanks: 4,591 Thanked 3,427 Times in 2,565 Posts	I only learned of this a couple of weeks ago by chance. It may become a well known phrase here as well in the not too distant future the way things are going. Get yer bike clips ready. https://imgur.com/a/R2LRKBN __________________ Blessed are the tea makers. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3b...auto-2000_auto

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COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	Another thing for me to not worry about.-- I live in France and have an RHD car.----

30th January 2022, 14:06	#9
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	As usual this has been poorly communicated, as well as thought out. Can't wait to see the courts filled with cases where someone has been reported for not applying the new rules and either injured or worse. JIC: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...9-january-2022 I shall just walk into the road now at a junction, knowing full well that should I be killed or injured the car driver is to blame. As for the Dutch Reach? Well I can just as easily not turn my head to look over my shoulder by using my left arm. This is going to end in tears I fear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SijcWitntPw&t=1s

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Arctic Give to Learn Freelander 2 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Midlands Posts: 18,717 Thanks: 1,155 Thanked 6,407 Times in 3,874 Posts	It looks like we will now need side cameras as well as the front a& rear we have already, there is going to be some rear enders when turning left if a bike is there, and you are indicating and do not make the manoeuvre, as the car behind is most likely thinking you are going to. __________________ Arctic Givology Learn to Give Everything is Achievable ad altiora tendo. Check out our Nano meet dates http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/index.php?thepage=howto " You do the work , we supply the expertise "