E10 fuel OK or not?

[Wicksie]

I just read the Government website for E10 intro - it gives no info on any Rover models.
E10, in case you didn't know folks, will be introduced into the UK this September.
Anybody know for sure if our cars will tolerate this juice or will we have to use an additive or super which I understand will stay at E5 ?

[torque2me]

Originally Posted by Wicksie

I just read the Government website for E10 intro - it gives no info on any Rover models.
E10, in case you didn't know folks, will be introduced into the UK this September.
Anybody know for sure if our cars will tolerate this juice or will we have to use an additive or super which I understand will stay at E5 ?

There was a very recent thread on this subject a week or so ago!

Kev

[stevestrat]

There have been several threads on the subject. This is the most recent.

[SD1too]

Originally Posted by Wicksie

Anybody know for sure if our cars will tolerate this juice ...

The short answer David is that all engines fitted to Land Rover vehicles from 1996 onwards are said to be compatible with E10 petrol. That includes the 1.8 K series and the KV6.

Simon

[chris75]

Good news about the engines But , as said before , any problems with the fuel tank and the gubbins inside it , and also the pipes going to the engine ?

[T-Cut]

Originally Posted by chris75

Good news about the engines But , as said before , any problems with the fuel tank and the gubbins inside it , and also the pipes going to the engine ?

The E5 grade will remain available from most major outlets, so stick with that. If you run low somewhere and can only get E10, a couple of gallons of that isn't going to compromise anything. It will get you to an E5 outlet. If mileage is important to you, I suspect the E10 will reduce the long term average MPG because ethanol is less energetic than petroleum.

I'll stick with the E5.
TC

[Nantwich 75]

Originally Posted by T-Cut

The E5 grade will remain available from most major outlets, so stick with that. If you run low somewhere and can only get E10, a couple of gallons of that isn't going to compromise anything. It will get you to an E5 outlet. If mileage is important to you, I suspect the E10 will reduce the long term average MPG because ethanol is less energetic than petroleum.

I'll stick with the E5.
TC

...and I will stick with the Guinness.....

[hogweed]

Funny thing... there's an advert I hear on the radio in the middle of the night exhorting me to check my vehicle etc, which specifically says the new fuel will be introduced "in England, Scotland, & Wales".


Now over here in NI we're well used to being excluded, but anybody know if this is the case, or if the advert has simply left us out as usual?

[Avulon]

Originally Posted by T-Cut

The E5 grade will remain available from most major outlets, so stick with that. If you run low somewhere and can only get E10, a couple of gallons of that isn't going to compromise anything. It will get you to an E5 outlet. If mileage is important to you, I suspect the E10 will reduce the long term average MPG because ethanol is less energetic than petroleum.

I'll stick with the E5.
TC

Excuse the highlighting pls. But this is the con. Over long term usage I know that non-ethanol fuel gets better mpg than e5 does. e10 is going to be less efficient. But they'll tell you it's less polluting than non-ethanol. Well I'm not convinced that it is if you need to burn 10% more of it for the same mileage. (and you won't be paying less for it either!).
There have been numerous debates about the benefits of premium fuels compared to standard and supermarket with many claims made. One consistent thing I see in those threads from those that poo-poo premium fuels usually goes along the lines of 'I tried a tank-full and didn't notice any difference.' Well you won't really with just one tank full. It'll take more than that to get your injectors clean again. Try it over 10 tankfuls. If you have to sometimes top off a quarter tank with supermarket fuel it won't matter. But smoothness and mpg will both improve if over 50% of fuel in the tank over extended time is premium. This will become even more so when standard fuel becomes e10 and premium will have no or at most e5 ethanol.

[The Rovering Member]

Originally Posted by Avulon

Excuse the highlighting pls. But this is the con. Over long term usage I know that non-ethanol fuel gets better mpg than e5 does. e10 is going to be less efficient. But they'll tell you it's less polluting than non-ethanol. Well I'm not convinced that it is if you need to burn 10% more of it for the same mileage. (and you won't be paying less for it either!).
There have been numerous debates about the benefits of premium fuels compared to standard and supermarket with many claims made. One consistent thing I see in those threads from those that poo-poo premium fuels usually goes along the lines of 'I tried a tank-full and didn't notice any difference.' Well you won't really with just one tank full. It'll take more than that to get your injectors clean again. Try it over 10 tankfuls. If you have to sometimes top off a quarter tank with supermarket fuel it won't matter. But smoothness and mpg will both improve if over 50% of fuel in the tank over extended time is premium. This will become even more so when standard fuel becomes e10 and premium will have no or at most e5 ethanol.

I've recently started using premium fuel, a bit before the E10 changeover, & have become a bit of a convert. My 1.8 does seem to be smoother & more responsive on it & the latest 'possible' result is that my fuel gauge has suddenly started working again after a year or more of showing empty with the warning light on. This could be pure coincidence of course but it's still a little erratic which offers me the possibility that whatever component is the culprit may be a bit sticky & the detergent in the fuel is gradually freeing it off. As l say it may also be coincidence.
Price difference seems to be 13/15p per litre at present though & l expect it will rise further as time progresses.