T4 for dummies

vitesse · 25th March 2020, 15:12

Heard yesterday that the old Rover agent in town that had been closed for months was now up for sale. Arranged to meet the manager and offered my assistance to clear things out with an understanding of appreciation.
Filled two cars with boxed parts, although some used spares and a device on a weird trolley - a T4.
Have tried connecting but not getting anywhere, the picture will hopefully provide clues to those better informed. (another message just said "Could not open the configuration file. Contact the help desk").

Grateful for any tips …

marinabrian · 25th March 2020, 16:49

It's a Dell Lattitude C600 running W98 and RDS 4.04, and no LANGMAP upgrades are installed to allow the diagnostic disc to run.

I would suggest a new laptop, a fresh install of RDS 5.06 along with LANG map upgrades 1&2, and ensure the LAN settings are correct for the interface

You will love it once you are set up I'm sure

Brian

vitesse · 25th March 2020, 17:25

Many thanks for the reply Brian - was hoping you might take pity.

The first bit was understandable, new laptop - easy, but then it got gradually more incomprehensible - think I need to send you a PM.

Sure I will love it once it's up and running as perhaps others within the club will too. As far as I know there's only one working T4 in Sweden.

Regards

vitesse · 3rd September 2020, 12:47

Almost hate this T4 - a helpful poster from Holland communicated and with his help I connected to the car and ran all the checks, brilliant. I promised to update the poster and tried connecting again today, same car, same laptop and it failed.

Good battery and charger connected.

One clue is that I didn’t see any diode light on the end of the red lead as I think I’ve done in the past, or have I dreamt it?

Anyway if anyone has any suggestions please … here’s the message from the T4.

Regards

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Lovel · 3rd September 2020, 16:42

Check the pins on the diagnostic lead as they go into the T4 box itself. If you mix up and insert into No.2 with lead No.1 one of the pins can get pushed in easily. A simple fix. If that fails try another vehicle.

vitesse · 3rd September 2020, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovel

Check the pins on the diagnostic lead as they go into the T4 box itself. If you mix up and insert into No.2 with lead No.1 one of the pins can get pushed in easily. A simple fix. If that fails try another vehicle.

Thanks for the reply, wish it were such a simple fix but I haven't moved anything on the T4 machine, all the leads are where they were when I last connected successfully.

I can try another vehicle, but it would help if you can confirm there is a diode on the end of the red lead.

Regards

Lovel · 3rd September 2020, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitesse

Thanks for the reply, wish it were such a simple fix but I haven't moved anything on the T4 machine, all the leads are where they were when I last connected successfully.

I can try another vehicle, but it would help if you can confirm there is a diode on the end of the red lead.

Regards

I would still advise checking the pins carefully.

BigRuss · 5th September 2020, 10:09

Can be caused by a bad connection between the diagnostic connector and the socket, try adjusting it slightly and see if it connects

If so the contacts in the diagnostic socket on the car may have spread slightly. The contacts should be visible in the slots, if they aren't then it's possible to reset them using a suitably sized tool. I carry a suitable very small screwdriver with my kit as it can come in handy.
I often find it on cars that have had other things plugged into them as the pins on some of them are too big

Russ

vitesse · 5th September 2020, 10:51

Thanks for the reply, I'll examine the pins as soon as we get a wet spell and I can rest from gardening: 11.5 tons of earth to move.

What gets me is that I'd left all the cables connected since the last successful session, same car, same laptop but now it didn't want to connect.

Would still like to know if there's a diode on the socket end of the red lead, green light if I remember correctly, or is age getting to me?

Keep well

mh007 · 6th September 2020, 11:06

No light on the lead as far as I recall.

25th March 2020, 15:12	#1
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	T4 for dummies Heard yesterday that the old Rover agent in town that had been closed for months was now up for sale. Arranged to meet the manager and offered my assistance to clear things out with an understanding of appreciation. Filled two cars with boxed parts, although some used spares and a device on a weird trolley - a T4. Have tried connecting but not getting anywhere, the picture will hopefully provide clues to those better informed. (another message just said "Could not open the configuration file. Contact the help desk"). Grateful for any tips …

3rd September 2020, 12:47	#4
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	Update Almost hate this T4 - a helpful poster from Holland communicated and with his help I connected to the car and ran all the checks, brilliant. I promised to update the poster and tried connecting again today, same car, same laptop and it failed. Good battery and charger connected. One clue is that I didn’t see any diode light on the end of the red lead as I think I’ve done in the past, or have I dreamt it? Anyway if anyone has any suggestions please … here’s the message from the T4. Regards [/url]

5th September 2020, 10:09	#8
BigRuss Premium Trader 75 CDT Tourer,2.5 Launch Saloon, Omipro MG/Rover (T4) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Liversedge, West Yorkshire Posts: 5,405 Thanks: 1,105 Thanked 1,340 Times in 661 Posts	Can be caused by a bad connection between the diagnostic connector and the socket, try adjusting it slightly and see if it connects If so the contacts in the diagnostic socket on the car may have spread slightly. The contacts should be visible in the slots, if they aren't then it's possible to reset them using a suitably sized tool. I carry a suitable very small screwdriver with my kit as it can come in handy. I often find it on cars that have had other things plugged into them as the pins on some of them are too big Russ __________________ Replacement Key Service http://https://the75andztclub.co.uk/...d.php?t=244732 Full T4 Testbook diagnostics available. Diesel ECU repair and replacement. Options enabled or disabled as required. Diesel X-Power 135 and 160bhp, Rover 1.8T 150 to 160 MG 160 V6 to 177 upgrades available P.M. for details.

25th March 2020, 16:49	#2
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	It's a Dell Lattitude C600 running W98 and RDS 4.04, and no LANGMAP upgrades are installed to allow the diagnostic disc to run. I would suggest a new laptop, a fresh install of RDS 5.06 along with LANG map upgrades 1&2, and ensure the LAN settings are correct for the interface You will love it once you are set up I'm sure Brian

25th March 2020, 17:25	#3
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	Many thanks for the reply Brian - was hoping you might take pity. The first bit was understandable, new laptop - easy, but then it got gradually more incomprehensible - think I need to send you a PM. Sure I will love it once it's up and running as perhaps others within the club will too. As far as I know there's only one working T4 in Sweden. Regards

3rd September 2020, 16:42	#5
Lovel I really should get out more....... P6B, L550, Imp, F56, Commando Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 2,886 Thanks: 352 Thanked 677 Times in 440 Posts	Check the pins on the diagnostic lead as they go into the T4 box itself. If you mix up and insert into No.2 with lead No.1 one of the pins can get pushed in easily. A simple fix. If that fails try another vehicle.

5th September 2020, 10:51	#9
vitesse I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gävle Posts: 2,528 Thanks: 395 Thanked 823 Times in 652 Posts	Thanks for the reply, I'll examine the pins as soon as we get a wet spell and I can rest from gardening: 11.5 tons of earth to move. What gets me is that I'd left all the cables connected since the last successful session, same car, same laptop but now it didn't want to connect. Would still like to know if there's a diode on the socket end of the red lead, green light if I remember correctly, or is age getting to me? Keep well

6th September 2020, 11:06	#10
mh007 This is my second home MG ZT260 SE, MG ZT190+, MG ZTT 160, R75 Conn SE 2.0, R75 Conn SE 2.5 X 3, R75 Club SE 1.8, P5B Coupe Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Keynsham, Bristol Posts: 4,211 Thanks: 65 Thanked 635 Times in 499 Posts	No light on the lead as far as I recall.