Advice on todays 1.0L to 1.8L engines

macafee2 · 1st June 2018, 16:09

30 years ago going on the motorway in a car with a 1.0L engine trying to do 70mph was hard work. Perhaps even 1.6 was no easy ride but cars and engines are so much better now.

Wife is thinking of getting a 2nd hand Honda Civic, Ford Focus or Ford Fiesta. Petrol engines range from 1.0L to 1.8L. Not looking for a sporty model or a diesel but one with bells and whistles, we keep our cars until they are "worthless"

1.8 perhaps a tad more then she needs as generally this will be a town car.
Never know she may want to drive to Mansfield which is about 200 miles.

With 4 adults and a full boot what are your thoughts on these cars and small engines? 1.6 onwards more then capable of the journey, below 1.6 I start to think the engine is being over worked and so your advice would be appreciated.

no more then 5 or 6 years old more like 3-4 I think, my budget 3-4k, her budget 10k

macafee2

Nev The Bear · 1st June 2018, 16:28

I find the 1 litre 12 valve engine in my C1 perfectly adequate for the car. You need to work the gears a bit more if doing a longer run say on A roads with steep hills but the C1 is still more than capable of keeping up with other traffic.

It is certainly no replacement for a 75, ZT or ZT-T but I did bot buy my C1 for that purpose. For commuting and going into town and the occasional longer run it is ideal as it is very economical, cheap to run witb no road tax payable and cheap insurance.

My wifes Dacia Sandero Stepway has a 0.9 litre turbo charged Renault engine fitted which is even more capable than the engine in my C1, but having a heavier bodyshell and more kit built into the car the economy suffers.

My C1 is capable of 65 to 70 mpg which I have been able to achieve, Kirstys Dacia Sandero Stepway, it os a struggle to achoeve 50 mpg on a similar journery.

Avulon · 1st June 2018, 16:31

Just drove through France to Northern Spain and back in a 2 year old Skoda Yeti 1.2 petrol Auto. Driver, Co-Driver and the back fully loaded with holiday kit. A distance over 2000 miles. We drove up to over 1400 metres altitude up winding and hairpinned mountain roads. Including; across the Millau viaduct then down to Millau itself - and back out next morning, up the non-toll road to pass into Spain - through the Ardeche Gorge and then up to the Source of the Loire. Never felt like it was really struggling - except the auto box which needed a bit of taking in hand during my driving stints - but then I hate Auto's anyway. And don't get my going on the engine stop start when stationery - that was the worst thing - taking an extra second to pull out at junctions and roundabouts requires a little clairvoyance to make it smooth...

Teflon · 1st June 2018, 16:47

Mrs Teflon got a new Hyundai i20 a year or so ago. I was more than a little concerned prior to the test drive as it only has a .9 ltr 3 cylinder engine

. Needn't have worried though, it's a little belter.

It's quite at home on long motorway journeys, happily keeping pace with the traffic and is a joy to drive around town. Car engines really do seem to have come on leaps and bounds in the last few years.

Cliff

first-things-first · 1st June 2018, 17:19

PSA's 1.2 3 cylinder is very capable and has up to 130 bhp. Fiat's old 1.2 / 1.4 FIRE engine is around 75 to 100 bhp I think and very strong. Brother had a Grande Punto and it never missed a beat in 45K miles. As it was a company car he didn't get a service done.

Still ran sweet as.

fandango151 · 1st June 2018, 17:22

1.1 diesel Rio. Does the job just a bit loud. Mpg is fantastic 70mpg real world with a long commute.

breakfastinsmethwick · 1st June 2018, 17:26

Turbocharging is your friend.

30 years ago we were playing with the engines from Japanese microcars. They were around 100 bhp per litre then. I cant recall them all, I think one was a diahatsu charade 3 pot. Fantastic things.

I guess that they have needed the alleged demise of Diseasal and increasing emissions tax to make such small displacement motors acceptable to the public.

solarsailor · 1st June 2018, 18:18

My son has a 5 door 2014 Fiesta Titanium Ecoboost. It has a 1.0L three cylinder engine with 123bhp that can do 0-60mph in 9.4 seconds and it averages over 60mpg - road tax is £0! Not sure what it would be like to drive loaded with 4 adults and a full boot, but with just two in it cruises comfortably at speeds I shan't mention.

It's not a bad looking thing either.

Ste.Sales · 1st June 2018, 18:28

Fiesta 1.0l eco boost gets a thumbs up from me. My dad has one and has been remapped to 160bhp. Has run quarter mile at santa pod 15.2 seconds! Will reach 60mph in less than 7 seconds. Motorways are a breeze for it too, it pulls away from my 1.8t easily.

oxfordblue75 · 1st June 2018, 18:31

My wife's daily drive is a new Skoda Fabia 1.0 turbo. On the rare occasions I get to drive it I can't believe how well it goes , great performance through the whole range of driving and has a roughty engine note as well. Cracking car, so far away in performance from my old 950cc mk1 Fiesta

1st June 2018, 16:09	#1
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,912 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	Advice on todays 1.0L to 1.8L engines 30 years ago going on the motorway in a car with a 1.0L engine trying to do 70mph was hard work. Perhaps even 1.6 was no easy ride but cars and engines are so much better now. Wife is thinking of getting a 2nd hand Honda Civic, Ford Focus or Ford Fiesta. Petrol engines range from 1.0L to 1.8L. Not looking for a sporty model or a diesel but one with bells and whistles, we keep our cars until they are "worthless" 1.8 perhaps a tad more then she needs as generally this will be a town car. Never know she may want to drive to Mansfield which is about 200 miles. With 4 adults and a full boot what are your thoughts on these cars and small engines? 1.6 onwards more then capable of the journey, below 1.6 I start to think the engine is being over worked and so your advice would be appreciated. no more then 5 or 6 years old more like 3-4 I think, my budget 3-4k, her budget 10k macafee2

1st June 2018, 16:31	#3
Avulon This is my second home 1.8t Tourer Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tanelorn Posts: 4,830 Thanks: 956 Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts	Just drove through France to Northern Spain and back in a 2 year old Skoda Yeti 1.2 petrol Auto. Driver, Co-Driver and the back fully loaded with holiday kit. A distance over 2000 miles. We drove up to over 1400 metres altitude up winding and hairpinned mountain roads. Including; across the Millau viaduct then down to Millau itself - and back out next morning, up the non-toll road to pass into Spain - through the Ardeche Gorge and then up to the Source of the Loire. Never felt like it was really struggling - except the auto box which needed a bit of taking in hand during my driving stints - but then I hate Auto's anyway. And don't get my going on the engine stop start when stationery - that was the worst thing - taking an extra second to pull out at junctions and roundabouts requires a little clairvoyance to make it smooth... __________________ Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk) Where?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn Mods/Retrofits: PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors To do: puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button

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Teflon This is my second home Lagoon 2.0 V6 75 Conn SE Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chertsey Posts: 5,201 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 2,920 Times in 1,570 Posts	Mrs Teflon got a new Hyundai i20 a year or so ago. I was more than a little concerned prior to the test drive as it only has a .9 ltr 3 cylinder engine . Needn't have worried though, it's a little belter. It's quite at home on long motorway journeys, happily keeping pace with the traffic and is a joy to drive around town. Car engines really do seem to have come on leaps and bounds in the last few years. Cliff __________________ No. 4 of 6

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solarsailor Posted a thing or two 75 Saloon 1.8T Club SE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Colchester Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 87 Thanked 653 Times in 344 Posts	My son has a 5 door 2014 Fiesta Titanium Ecoboost. It has a 1.0L three cylinder engine with 123bhp that can do 0-60mph in 9.4 seconds and it averages over 60mpg - road tax is £0! Not sure what it would be like to drive loaded with 4 adults and a full boot, but with just two in it cruises comfortably at speeds I shan't mention. It's not a bad looking thing either. __________________ This vehicle was born on Wednesday June 4th 2003 @ 08:24:38 This vehicle was the 73,905th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 1,862nd 75 1.8 T Club SE to be made out of 3,980 This vehicle was the 6,856th 75 in Wedgewood Blue to be made out of 7,515 Wedgewood Blue 75s

1st June 2018, 16:28	#2
Nev The Bear This is my second home Does not matter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: . Posts: 3,996 Thanks: 2,397 Thanked 1,575 Times in 987 Posts	I find the 1 litre 12 valve engine in my C1 perfectly adequate for the car. You need to work the gears a bit more if doing a longer run say on A roads with steep hills but the C1 is still more than capable of keeping up with other traffic. It is certainly no replacement for a 75, ZT or ZT-T but I did bot buy my C1 for that purpose. For commuting and going into town and the occasional longer run it is ideal as it is very economical, cheap to run witb no road tax payable and cheap insurance. My wifes Dacia Sandero Stepway has a 0.9 litre turbo charged Renault engine fitted which is even more capable than the engine in my C1, but having a heavier bodyshell and more kit built into the car the economy suffers. My C1 is capable of 65 to 70 mpg which I have been able to achieve, Kirstys Dacia Sandero Stepway, it os a struggle to achoeve 50 mpg on a similar journery.

1st June 2018, 17:19	#5
first-things-first Posted a thing or two MG ZT Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Hornchurch Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 176 Thanked 352 Times in 272 Posts	PSA's 1.2 3 cylinder is very capable and has up to 130 bhp. Fiat's old 1.2 / 1.4 FIRE engine is around 75 to 100 bhp I think and very strong. Brother had a Grande Punto and it never missed a beat in 45K miles. As it was a company car he didn't get a service done. Still ran sweet as.

1st June 2018, 17:22	#6
fandango151 Loves to post Rover 75 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Tamworth Posts: 291 Thanks: 2 Thanked 72 Times in 65 Posts	1.1 diesel Rio. Does the job just a bit loud. Mpg is fantastic 70mpg real world with a long commute.

1st June 2018, 17:26	#7
breakfastinsmethwick Gets stuck in Maintainer of sons ZT M47r Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Shropshire Posts: 624 Thanks: 609 Thanked 124 Times in 100 Posts	Turbocharging is your friend. 30 years ago we were playing with the engines from Japanese microcars. They were around 100 bhp per litre then. I cant recall them all, I think one was a diahatsu charade 3 pot. Fantastic things. I guess that they have needed the alleged demise of Diseasal and increasing emissions tax to make such small displacement motors acceptable to the public.

1st June 2018, 18:28	#9
Ste.Sales Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Preston Posts: 233 Thanks: 9 Thanked 37 Times in 35 Posts	Fiesta 1.0l eco boost gets a thumbs up from me. My dad has one and has been remapped to 160bhp. Has run quarter mile at santa pod 15.2 seconds! Will reach 60mph in less than 7 seconds. Motorways are a breeze for it too, it pulls away from my 1.8t easily.

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oxfordblue75 Gets stuck in rover 75 saloon 1.8T Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: saltash Posts: 701 Thanks: 150 Thanked 235 Times in 160 Posts	My wife's daily drive is a new Skoda Fabia 1.0 turbo. On the rare occasions I get to drive it I can't believe how well it goes , great performance through the whole range of driving and has a roughty engine note as well. Cracking car, so far away in performance from my old 950cc mk1 Fiesta