Boeing 737 Max production suspended

Darcydog · 16th December 2019, 21:20

Ouch!

From what was such a fine company with a superb past reputation- “If it isn’t Boeing, I’m not going” - a truly awful modern day example of how not to do things.

Great shame.

roverbarmy · 16th December 2019, 22:23

The 737 prior to the MAX is also being checked for "Pickle Fork" cracks too!

I was on one in October!

planenut · 16th December 2019, 22:55

Noted that the FAA had notice of the faults - that's going to be a lot of money to those with a lot of heartache!

SCP440 · 17th December 2019, 16:08

Its going to need a lot of ''fixing'' to get customer confidence back. I know if I was flying anywhere in the near future and I was told that was my mode of transport I would be very worried.

Apparently the airlines are pushing to get them as they have costed in the savings these aircraft are supposed to bring them.

WillyHeckaslike · 20th December 2019, 22:47

Personally, no. The US and Boeing can keep it. The pair of them are well over due a drag to the court of decency.

Gate Keeper · 24th December 2019, 06:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCP440

Its going to need a lot of ''fixing'' to get customer confidence back. I know if I was flying anywhere in the near future and I was told that was my mode of transport I would be very worried.

Apparently the airlines are pushing to get them as they have costed in the savings these aircraft are supposed to bring them.

I still do a fair amount of flying. On 17 Feb, I am flying from Nairobi to Addis Ababa on Ethiopian Airlines on a Boeing 737-800, then connecting to London on an Ethiopian Airlines A350. I am fairly confident the planes won't crash. I would not feel the same flying on a 737 Max, no, no, no.

Lancpudn · 24th December 2019, 09:17

WillyHeckaslike · 24th December 2019, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gate Keeper

I am fairly confident the planes won't crash.

The 737-800 certainly won't crash because of MCAS, it doesn't have it. However any system can malfunction and a successful outcome can depend on how the crew respond to it, easy to say with hindsight I know but some do argue that the events which grounded the 737 MAX are a case in point. The quality of a company and its crew are paramount to safe flying though personally I do think that Boeing and the relevant authorities dropped the ball re MCAS.

grivas · 24th December 2019, 14:01

Nothing new here, simply yet another example of the continuing and inevitable decline of American manufacturing.

Gate Keeper · 24th December 2019, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillyHeckaslike

The 737-800 certainly won't crash because of MCAS, it doesn't have it. However any system can malfunction and a successful outcome can depend on how the crew respond to it, easy to say with hindsight I know but some do argue that the events which grounded the 737 MAX are a case in point. The quality of a company and its crew are paramount to safe flying though personally I do think that Boeing and the relevant authorities dropped the ball re MCAS.

Thank you Steve for the reassurance. I don’t disagree with the strong point you make about crew training in the event of a malfunction. With your insights into the industry, do you have a favourite airline jet you would feel safe flying in?

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16th December 2019, 22:55	#3
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,947 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	Noted that the FAA had notice of the faults - that's going to be a lot of money to those with a lot of heartache!

17th December 2019, 16:08	#4
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	Its going to need a lot of ''fixing'' to get customer confidence back. I know if I was flying anywhere in the near future and I was told that was my mode of transport I would be very worried. Apparently the airlines are pushing to get them as they have costed in the savings these aircraft are supposed to bring them.

20th December 2019, 22:47	#5
WillyHeckaslike This is my second home Rovers 75 & 25 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wearside Posts: 4,519 Thanks: 543 Thanked 709 Times in 511 Posts	Personally, no. The US and Boeing can keep it. The pair of them are well over due a drag to the court of decency.

24th December 2019, 14:01	#9
grivas I really should get out more....... Rover 75 CDT Club Tourer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Milky Way Posts: 2,368 Thanks: 105 Thanked 513 Times in 382 Posts	Nothing new here, simply yet another example of the continuing and inevitable decline of American manufacturing.