KV6 2.0 Cambelt Renewal Thoughts - Page 2

dave lincs · 28th July 2021, 06:49

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Originally Posted by SD1too

I hope everyone is noting that Tim's belts were about 20 years old.

Yet more evidence that replacement every six years is unnecessary.

Tim; what were the tensioner and idler pulley bearings like on your car? Mine were rather rough (at just 2,000 miles more than yours) posing a greater risk of failure than the belts themselves.

Simon

Simon
Rover interval for the belt change is 90000 miles or 6 years whichever is sooner as I'm sure you know so please don't suggest it is fine not to listen to the manufacturers interval for changes
If any owner is thinking of a belt change they should just be told the specified Interval and then left to decide for themselves and not be told by you that the belts will last longer
If you think that the belts will last past the recommended change point and a member takes your advise then the belt fails will you pay for the engine repairs?

Dave

dave lincs · 28th July 2021, 06:57

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Originally Posted by Costa Fortuna

I took the car off the road within 48hrs of buying it and doing it in my spare time off and on about ten days start to finish (amassing parts and getting the tool hire organised included). I hope that has answered your (rather strange) question.
Yes, my belts looked in great shape but in no way am I expressing an opinion on change intervals - it was merely an observation, no more than that.

Well done for doing it yourself and as most of us know it needed doing and you got on with it, Great work

SD1too · 28th July 2021, 07:15

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Originally Posted by Costa Fortuna

The tensioner and idler on the drive belt require a mention ... The bearings in both were noisy - the tensioner bearing I repacked with grease ... The idler was too far gone - it was very noisy and rough so I pressed out the bearing ... Got a new one and pressed it back in.

Thanks very much Tim for answering my question. My car was like that too, at the same mileage. I'm very impressed with your repair technique.

Simon

ssizefive · 28th July 2021, 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too

I hope everyone is noting that Tim's belts were about 20 years old.

Yet more evidence that replacement every six years is unnecessary.

Tim; what were the tensioner and idler pulley bearings like on your car? Mine were rather rough (at just 2,000 miles more than yours) posing a greater risk of failure than the belts themselves.

Simon

Don't often comment on these kind of posts but, in my opinion,it is not a great idea to suggest to members that might not know better to pretty much ignore manufacturers recommendations on such an important item.
I have no idea how old the belts were on my old launch car but when they were replaced they did appear to be in excellent condition on the outer visible area but were not in a good way on the toothed side.
Change the belts as recommended or take the risk ( at your own peril ).
Just my thoughts ( oh, and the manufacturers and most of the respected members on here).

Steve.

dave lincs · 28th July 2021, 08:22

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Originally Posted by ssizefive

Don't often comment on these kind of posts but, in my opinion,it is not a great idea to suggest to members that might not know better to pretty much ignore manufacturers recommendations on such an important item.
I have no idea how old the belts were on my old launch car but when they were replaced they did appear to be in excellent condition on the outer visible area but were not in a good way on the toothed side.
Change the belts as recommended or take the risk ( at your own peril ).
Just my thoughts ( oh, and the manufacturers and most of the respected members on here).

Steve.

Steve

As you say change them as recommended or take the risk, Is it really worth turning a well running car into what would then be scrap value due to the cost of an engine rebuild for a belt change?

Dave

ssizefive · 28th July 2021, 08:29

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Originally Posted by dave lincs

Steve

As you say change them as recommended or take the risk, Is it really worth turning a well running car into what would then be scrap value due to the cost of an engine rebuild for a belt change?

Dave

Exactly!!

Steve.

SD1too · 28th July 2021, 08:35

The point I am making is not one of the decision to be made in the future, it concerns the opportunity to learn from the evidence of the past.

TIm's engine, and the many others in the same position, have already demonstrated the truth. The question is: do you hang onto your belief in what someone else tells you even though the facts put in front of you tell you otherwise?

Simon

TourerSteve · 28th July 2021, 09:00

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Originally Posted by Costa Fortuna

I took the car off the road within 48hrs of buying it and doing it in my spare time off and on about ten days start to finish

Considering the age and mileage, a sensible way forward with a car that is an unknown quantity. You now have peace of mind that the timing service has been carried out
Whatever views others have I would always advocate carrying out the timing service within the manufacturers recommendation regardless ,
Fix on fail not an option with a timing belt!

dave lincs · 28th July 2021, 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too

The point I am making is not one of the decision to be made in the future, it concerns the opportunity to learn from the evidence of the past.

TIm's engine, and the many others in the same position, have already demonstrated the truth. The question is: do you hang onto your belief in what someone else tells you even though the facts put in front of you tell you otherwise?

Simon

It is quite simple Simon the intervals were set by MGR which should be done, Quite a lot of other manufactures specify high cambelt change intervals and then they break before they reach there change point, I would advise anyone to change there belts on time or run the risk of serious engine damage

Dave

TourerSteve · 28th July 2021, 09:23

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Originally Posted by dave lincs

It is quite simple Simon the intervals were set by MGR which should be done, Quite a lot of other manufactures specify high cambelt change intervals and then they break before they reach there change point, I would advise anyone to change there belts on time or run the risk of serious engine damage

Dave

Preventative maintenance better than fix on fail !
Basically with the age of our cars , it would make them an uneconomical right off

28th July 2021, 08:35	#17
SD1too Doesn't do things by halves Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur Auto (1999) Dealer launch model. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Former Middlesex Posts: 20,344 Thanks: 1,587 Thanked 3,749 Times in 3,181 Posts	The point I am making is not one of the decision to be made in the future, it concerns the opportunity to learn from the evidence of the past. TIm's engine, and the many others in the same position, have already demonstrated the truth. The question is: do you hang onto your belief in what someone else tells you even though the facts put in front of you tell you otherwise? Simon __________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Sir Henry Royce.