MOT Same Old Story - well not quite

planenut · 1st October 2020, 11:59

It's strange that we want to share such "joy" as gaining a MOT pass, when we clearly should not present the beast if there were a likelihood of failure, but I now wish to share my own story.

A few weeks back doing my own examination I found both rear springs broken at the bottom coil, so I managed to replace them.

I then found that my rear offside jacking point had deep rust damage, so I purchased one of Tom Hobbs' replacement panels. My daughter and her partner do the occasional welding , having all the gear, but live over a hundred miles away. I did some research on the use of adhesives and last weekend, fabricated a panel, cut out the rot, treated all the areas, stuck the piece in place with Quiksteel and on Monday, took the car out for a test run, all went well, and all remained solid and fixed. How disturbed I was when 600 yards short of home, I felt a thump under the car and immediately got continuous vibration. Thinking that it could not be the panel, I pulled in and suspected a spring had gone until I found the rear silencer support strap had broken. I nursed the car home and made up one on Tuesday, all fixed into place.

Today, in for the MOT, and had a chat with the examiner, explaining my work.

PASSED and with an advisory, for a rusty brake pipe, and a comment that the patch repair is very neat.

Parisien · 1st October 2020, 12:25

Result, great your own fix did its job, not heard of an adhesive fix before, but then there's lots of things I'd not heard of before !

P

tantallon · 1st October 2020, 12:40

Should not have passed with a glued on panel

Mike Noc · 1st October 2020, 12:58

Same thing broke on mine today Fred. Just finished making up and fitting a new bracket. Only temporary mind as the rear box looks like it is shot.

FLYING BANANA · 1st October 2020, 13:04

Congratulations on the pass.

planenut · 1st October 2020, 13:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by tantallon

Should not have passed with a glued on panel

Epoxy now used in many industries as well as car manufacture. It paid to do the research. Sills are not structural. As mentioned, soon the larger purchased panel will be welded in.

Nick Greg · 1st October 2020, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by tantallon

Should not have passed with a glued on panel

The thing is though, it did

torque2me · 1st October 2020, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by tantallon

Should not have passed with a glued on panel

A glued panel can have the same or higher shear characteristics against welded. A lot of to-days cars are glued (Aston Martin, Bentley, Jaguar). There has been a program series of "How to build a …….." on one of the channels and gluing assemblies is looked at.

In the 1970's (I think), BL did an experiment with a couple of MGB's. One had a glued rear panel and the other normal welding. The test (or at least the story/pic presentation) was similar to the Levi Jean logo. The glued car won!

Kev

ADO282 · 2nd October 2020, 07:19

Hmm, wish I thought of gluing on the repairs to the sills of my own car......any chance of a picture please Fred.

planenut · 2nd October 2020, 07:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADO282

Hmm, wish I thought of gluing on the repairs to the sills of my own car......any chance of a picture please Fred.

When this storm has passed, I'll try for the picture. It's left rough so that the examiner could see the intentions plus I did show him Tom's panel.

Ah, just looked at the forecast, this could be some time.

1st October 2020, 11:59	#1
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,948 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	MOT Same Old Story - well not quite It's strange that we want to share such "joy" as gaining a MOT pass, when we clearly should not present the beast if there were a likelihood of failure, but I now wish to share my own story. A few weeks back doing my own examination I found both rear springs broken at the bottom coil, so I managed to replace them. I then found that my rear offside jacking point had deep rust damage, so I purchased one of Tom Hobbs' replacement panels. My daughter and her partner do the occasional welding , having all the gear, but live over a hundred miles away. I did some research on the use of adhesives and last weekend, fabricated a panel, cut out the rot, treated all the areas, stuck the piece in place with Quiksteel and on Monday, took the car out for a test run, all went well, and all remained solid and fixed. How disturbed I was when 600 yards short of home, I felt a thump under the car and immediately got continuous vibration. Thinking that it could not be the panel, I pulled in and suspected a spring had gone until I found the rear silencer support strap had broken. I nursed the car home and made up one on Tuesday, all fixed into place. Today, in for the MOT, and had a chat with the examiner, explaining my work. PASSED and with an advisory, for a rusty brake pipe, and a comment that the patch repair is very neat.

1st October 2020, 13:04	#5
FLYING BANANA Moderator/Club Shop MG ZT 1.8t+. No.3 of 4 in Sunspot Yellow & Ford Fiesta in Black. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rattler Farm Posts: 22,555 Thanks: 9,270 Thanked 15,645 Times in 6,806 Posts	Congratulations on the pass. __________________ 233,320. New rear tyres on order for BBB. onen hag oll

1st October 2020, 12:25	#2
Parisien Regular poster Rover 75 saloon 2006, MG ZT 190+ 2002 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: N Ireland Posts: 40 Thanks: 45 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Result, great your own fix did its job, not heard of an adhesive fix before, but then there's lots of things I'd not heard of before ! P

1st October 2020, 12:40	#3
tantallon Gets stuck in ROVER 75 SALOON Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Peterborough Posts: 597 Thanks: 386 Thanked 316 Times in 144 Posts	Should not have passed with a glued on panel

1st October 2020, 12:58	#4
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,547 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	Same thing broke on mine today Fred. Just finished making up and fitting a new bracket. Only temporary mind as the rear box looks like it is shot.

2nd October 2020, 07:19	#9
ADO282 Banned ROVER 75 Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: BRACKNELL Posts: 270 Thanks: 125 Thanked 130 Times in 92 Posts	Hmm, wish I thought of gluing on the repairs to the sills of my own car......any chance of a picture please Fred.