Harmony remote controls...please help!

zan110 · 1st September 2007, 12:28

Hi everybody, I have just bought an 05 75 cdti classic, which the previous owner had replaced the Harmony radio/cassette with an after market one. When I bought the car the Harmony had been refitted (badly!) and the remotes do not work at all, although the radio works fine. The cable from the remotes appears to go into the yellow end of a connector block that is blue,green and yellow. This is not connected to the radio. Is there a cable missing between radio and terminl block?
The connections are different from both the older 75 that i have looked at. Has anyone any ideas?
thanks
Zan

raykay · 1st September 2007, 16:08

The steering controls are not in the mini ISO plugs, they are the Blue/Purple and Blue/Orange cables in the 17 pin BMW plug.

mayor · 1st September 2007, 16:10

Hi -you should find that you have the standards ISO connector but you will need an adaptor for the remote controls and depending on the radio you have fitted you it will need to be specific to the radio fitted. Not all radios have this facility. Autoleads have a good selection in my case I upgraded the radio to a clarion and got the lead for the steering remote from autoleads

zan110 · 1st September 2007, 17:25

Thanks Ray and Mayor, I'll have a look in the morning. I think it may have been fitted with a Symphony head unit and replaced with a Harmony fitted with the BMW type connector when the previous owner went into receivership.
Now , at least I have something to look for!
zan

raykay · 2nd September 2007, 10:10

You won't need an adapter lead, the Harmony is a Rover unit and will work with the existing steering controls, it just needs the the cables connected through from the car loom.

zan110 · 3rd September 2007, 20:00

Thanks once again Ray:lol:

zan110 · 25th September 2007, 19:16

OK guys thanks for your help. I have finally repaced the Harmony with a Symphony and installed an Alpine cd player in the glove box. I am thinking about moving it to the boot but will leave it where it is for the moment. Most of the problems I had arose from mods carried out (I think) by the phone people. My car (which is an 05 Classic CDTI) is not fitted with a BMW type plug but 2 ISO 8 pin sockets (one brown (C0092)for the speakers and a grey (C0098)for power etc. An adaptor lead with two 8 pin plugs connecting through to a BMW type socket had been fitted into the back of the Harmony. There was no sign of any K Bus lead in the cables to the BMW type socket, and the remote cables had been incorrectly connected to the green socket (C0922) which was connected to nothing and even when connected to the Symphony did nothing. They should have been connected to terminals 2 & 3 on the grey plug. Having fitted the Symphony and got the remotes working the CD player would only power up, the head unit did not recognise it. There was a K Bus connection between the two but not into the general K Bus system. In the end I connected a tail from KBus line between the cd and head unit line into a plug (C0982)for the sat nav and immediately the Symphony came to life and the cd player has worked fine ever since.
Anyhow I hope this will help anyone else with this problem.

zan

1st September 2007, 12:28	#1
zan110 Regular poster MG ZT-T+ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Exeter Posts: 76 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Harmony remote controls...please help! Hi everybody, I have just bought an 05 75 cdti classic, which the previous owner had replaced the Harmony radio/cassette with an after market one. When I bought the car the Harmony had been refitted (badly!) and the remotes do not work at all, although the radio works fine. The cable from the remotes appears to go into the yellow end of a connector block that is blue,green and yellow. This is not connected to the radio. Is there a cable missing between radio and terminl block? The connections are different from both the older 75 that i have looked at. Has anyone any ideas? thanks Zan

1st September 2007, 17:25	#4
zan110 Regular poster MG ZT-T+ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Exeter Posts: 76 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks Ray and Mayor, I'll have a look in the morning. I think it may have been fitted with a Symphony head unit and replaced with a Harmony fitted with the BMW type connector when the previous owner went into receivership. Now , at least I have something to look for! zan Last edited by zan110; 1st September 2007 at 17:28..

25th September 2007, 19:16	#7
zan110 Regular poster MG ZT-T+ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Exeter Posts: 76 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	topping out OK guys thanks for your help. I have finally repaced the Harmony with a Symphony and installed an Alpine cd player in the glove box. I am thinking about moving it to the boot but will leave it where it is for the moment. Most of the problems I had arose from mods carried out (I think) by the phone people. My car (which is an 05 Classic CDTI) is not fitted with a BMW type plug but 2 ISO 8 pin sockets (one brown (C0092)for the speakers and a grey (C0098)for power etc. An adaptor lead with two 8 pin plugs connecting through to a BMW type socket had been fitted into the back of the Harmony. There was no sign of any K Bus lead in the cables to the BMW type socket, and the remote cables had been incorrectly connected to the green socket (C0922) which was connected to nothing and even when connected to the Symphony did nothing. They should have been connected to terminals 2 & 3 on the grey plug. Having fitted the Symphony and got the remotes working the CD player would only power up, the head unit did not recognise it. There was a K Bus connection between the two but not into the general K Bus system. In the end I connected a tail from KBus line between the cd and head unit line into a plug (C0982)for the sat nav and immediately the Symphony came to life and the cd player has worked fine ever since. Anyhow I hope this will help anyone else with this problem. zan

1st September 2007, 16:08	#2
raykay I really should get out more....... Now Other Manufacturer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Co. Kerry Posts: 2,786 Thanks: 16 Thanked 310 Times in 283 Posts	The steering controls are not in the mini ISO plugs, they are the Blue/Purple and Blue/Orange cables in the 17 pin BMW plug.

1st September 2007, 16:10	#3
mayor Loves to post Rover 75 CDTi Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porthcawl Posts: 294 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi -you should find that you have the standards ISO connector but you will need an adaptor for the remote controls and depending on the radio you have fitted you it will need to be specific to the radio fitted. Not all radios have this facility. Autoleads have a good selection in my case I upgraded the radio to a clarion and got the lead for the steering remote from autoleads

2nd September 2007, 10:10	#5
raykay I really should get out more....... Now Other Manufacturer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Co. Kerry Posts: 2,786 Thanks: 16 Thanked 310 Times in 283 Posts	You won't need an adapter lead, the Harmony is a Rover unit and will work with the existing steering controls, it just needs the the cables connected through from the car loom.

3rd September 2007, 20:00	#6
zan110 Regular poster MG ZT-T+ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Exeter Posts: 76 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks once again Ray:lol: