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Old 26th July 2020, 19:14   #1
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Default Rover 75 1.8 - Engine turns but won't start

Hello everyone
Since I'm new here, first I'll give a bit of background on the car:

Back in January I was looking for a car to replace my old one, and I stumbled upon a 2004 Rover 75 Connoisseur midnight blue, 1.8 petrol. It had about 84.000 km, looked decent overall and the seller informed me the head gasket had been replaced already since the original ones were known to have issues. Sounded like a good deal to me, so I went for it.

First few months went by fine, I was happy as could be with my new car, until one day I'd stopped to refuel. After refueling, the engine wouldn't start right away. It started on the second try so I didn't think anything of it.
Later that day, I wanted to start my car again, nothing. The engine seemed to be turning, the starter's working away, but it did not fire up.

I took it to the mechanic's, who looked at the car for about 2 months but could not locate the issue. In order to avoid running up the costs even further, it's now sitting in my yard and even though it's a nice looking car, it'd be a shame to just have it sit there.

The mechanic only found one actual issue: the fuel pressure apparently isn't nearly what it should be. They did not find the source of this problem, however.
In my own search for a possible cause, I came across this forum and consequently looked at the fuel filter. It does not have the orange clip, but both parts still seem to be together pretty well.

Do any of you maybe have an idea of any possible causes for this problem? When turning the ignition, the rev-counter does move, but the engine won't fire up. Sometimes it sounds as if it's starting for just a second, but it never actually runs.

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Old 26th July 2020, 20:15   #2
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Start by fitting the orange clip Erik!

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I had the same for a while & it persisted after l fitted the clip. It turned out the compression was right down & all the valves needed reseating & one exhaust valve was burned out.
As Simon says though, start with the orange clip, it's worth doing regardless.
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Old 27th July 2020, 09:55   #4
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Apart from the clip, which keeps the two halves of the filter housing together, there's a thin rubber o-ring between them. This may have hardened over the years and won't reseal even with the clip in place. My seal leaked after fitting the FOC and I had to do the whole job again with a new o-ring. You'll find discussions on this subject by searching for 'FOC' - (the Fabled Orange Clip)..


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Hello everyone
Since I'm new here, first I'll give a bit of background on the car:

Back in January I was looking for a car to replace my old one, and I stumbled upon a 2004 Rover 75 Connoisseur midnight blue, 1.8 petrol. It had about 84.000 km, looked decent overall and the seller informed me the head gasket had been replaced already since the original ones were known to have issues. Sounded like a good deal to me, so I went for it.

First few months went by fine, I was happy as could be with my new car, until one day I'd stopped to refuel. After refueling, the engine wouldn't start right away. It started on the second try so I didn't think anything of it.
Later that day, I wanted to start my car again, nothing. The engine seemed to be turning, the starter's working away, but it did not fire up.

I took it to the mechanic's, who looked at the car for about 2 months but could not locate the issue. In order to avoid running up the costs even further, it's now sitting in my yard and even though it's a nice looking car, it'd be a shame to just have it sit there.

The mechanic only found one actual issue: the fuel pressure apparently isn't nearly what it should be. They did not find the source of this problem, however.
In my own search for a possible cause, I came across this forum and consequently looked at the fuel filter. It does not have the orange clip, but both parts still seem to be together pretty well.

Do any of you maybe have an idea of any possible causes for this problem? When turning the ignition, the rev-counter does move, but the engine won't fire up. Sometimes it sounds as if it's starting for just a second, but it never actually runs.
As T Cut says you need to fit the fabled orange clip to your fuel filter - no longer orange though - all of 15 euros on e bay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exclusive...gAAOSwPcVVkEbD
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Or just the white* clip for 9 Euros.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/e-Zee-Exc...wAAOSw9eVXUJ1d


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* The original MGR part was orange, the aftermarket part is white.
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Thanks for the replies, everyone. I've ordered the clip and the o-ring, I suppose it couldn't hurt to replace that one as well. I'll be back with an update once it arrives and I've put it in place.
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I'll be back with an update once it arrives and I've put it in place.
Don't let the appearance of the filter element shock you. It will be black and orrible, but it will be fine. Just follow the HowTo here: https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...ead.php?t=9108
- and you should be back on the road again.


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Don't let the appearance of the filter element shock you. It will be black and orrible, but it will be fine. Just follow the HowTo here: https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...ead.php?t=9108
- and you should be back on the road again.


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I do hope so, I'd really hate to have to let go of this car already.
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Update on the car: replaced the o-ring (only found a small part of the old ring, the rest of it seems to have disappeared somehow) and fitted the clip.
Hopeful, I tried to start, but no difference. Would you have any other tips I could look into?
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