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Old 2nd July 2020, 17:12   #1
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when it comes to building and I'm thinking a garage are you cost wise, better to get a builder to do the lot or individual tradesmen
if all do their work to spec?
foundations, concrete floor, brick layer, chippy, roofer, sparks?

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Old 2nd July 2020, 17:39   #2
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when it comes to building and I'm thinking a garage are you cost wise, better to get a builder to do the lot or individual tradesmen
if all do their work to spec?
foundations, concrete floor, brick layer, chippy, roofer, sparks?

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Don't get the cowboys in in my advice Ian, just look at this abortion thrown up opposite me



I'm going to set out the foundations on my new workshop, then employ a brickie to build the walls, and once they're up I'll order the roof trusses and tiles to finish off the top end.

As to your question, get some quotes and see what they say, a lot of builders simply are not interested in small jobs unfortunately, and more importantly get the names of previous customers who have had work done and are happy for you to talk to them.

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Just curious Brian. You say abortion. Any chance you could be just a bit more specific ??----
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Further to the above post.

I used to run a variety of building sites before retirement.

Below is a pic of one of the sites I was in charge of as site manager. An estate of 40 houses. The drawings I was given were for houses on a level field.

I personally changed the foundations and added extra features to accommodate those changes.

That's what made me curious about your observations on that garage.


PS. Plus it's got a ROVER in it. Lol.


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Further to the above post.

I used to run a variety of building sites before retirement.

Below is a pic of one of the sites I was in charge of as site manager. An estate of 40 houses. The drawings I was given were for houses on a level field.

I personally changed the foundations and added extra features to accommodate those changes.

That's what made me curious about your observations on that garage.


PS. Plus it's got a ROVER in it. Lol.

I don't know where to start really Jon, the brickwork is ropey, the headlap on the tiles is wrong, the walls are not parallel to one another, nor perpendicular, the roof trusses are not in line with one another, and the bottom row of tiles has no tilting fillet plus the membrane runs underneath the (non treated) tiling battons.

There was a parapet wall between the two garages with capping on, this was removed but the last courses were not, so the roof intersects the remains of the parapet which has some sort of sticky flashing like flashband stuck to the membrane, and a big gap at the end of the tiles.

Apart from anything else the bottom tile batten isn't parallel with the eaves so as a result the tiles run off at an angle, which can be seen at the verges where no undercloak was used, dry verge nailed to a wooden lath nailed to the compo at the top of the brickwork.

The gutter runs uphill to both sides of the downcomer, which has been run around the corner

A quality job, you bet

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Thanks Brian. Difficult to see all that from the pic.---

To the OP. Most of the work building a garage is fairly easy if you have reasonable building skills. If not then you might be able to tackle the floor slab yourself and even the simple electrics but you'll need the other three trades to complete the job.----

Look at their previous work though and don't take any chances.---Good luck with it.


With any job quality control by yourself is ESSENTIAL to nip any errors in the bud.



PS. Tiling battens. The membrane has to have the battens on top so that the hooks on the roof tiles can fix on to them.


The angle of the roof determines if tilting fillets are required.

The wall plate that the gang-nailed roof trusses sits on must also be fixed down to the garage walls by wall straps.


As they say in the trade the work needs a good coat of looking at.--Lol.

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Don't get the cowboys in in my advice Ian, just look at this abortion thrown up opposite me



I'm going to set out the foundations on my new workshop, then employ a brickie to build the walls, and once they're up I'll order the roof trusses and tiles to finish off the top end.

As to your question, get some quotes and see what they say, a lot of builders simply are not interested in small jobs unfortunately, and more importantly get the names of previous customers who have had work done and are happy for you to talk to them.

Brian


The big question is though Brian, have you moved all those bricks yet?

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