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Old 5th March 2020, 12:37   #11
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All points noted, cheers chaps - I was going for the 'do the lot' angle but it's clear the demand is there for the basic kit.

I'll amend the listing once we have more stock - all of the 5 kits due in flew off the shelves in minutes, and we're hoping for the next batch in April.
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Old 5th March 2020, 14:52   #12
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Thanks, it would be nice if there were a choice, perhaps a drop down menu like you usually do if the plastic straight and curved pipe will fit Kaiser’s housing, confirmation would be appreciated.

And I’m sure I’m not the only one wondering about the difference between the black vs green IMG …

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Old 5th March 2020, 19:14   #13
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I've covered 12,000 miles since I fitted the modified plastic thermostat housing with stabilising lugs pioneered by the Chinese. At the same time I utilised the plastic straight pipe's clips as MGR intended. That was nearly three years ago for those who prefer to judge things by time elapsed.

One well-known outspoken member of the forum inclined to ridiculing and insulting other members believes that anything made in China is rubbish and he is also intolerant of creative and economical solutions such as positioning the clips properly as I have done.

I am pleased to be able to report to the rest of the membership that I have not lost any coolant in the 'V' since making these changes. If this continues, then spending £200 on metal components will surely need careful consideration.

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that interesting simon, be great if the plastic ones have finally been sorted.
Be alot of ikd dodgy stock out there still.
i used to get about 6-7 years out of the previous plastic ones until leaking.
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that interesting simon, be great if the plastic ones have finally been sorted.
Thanks for your response Peter. Yes, it's interesting that the Chinese appear to have reached the conclusion that it's movement which is the problem, not OAT, hence the stabilising lugs. I'd add that Steve (Arctic) also approves of this modification.

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Good news, except for the price. Couple of questions - won’t the standard plastic curved and straight pipes fit this metal thermostat? I’ve replaced about five thermostats and all were down to failure of the main internal thermostat.

Don’t really need a new temperature sensor either, and have successfully re-used the old clips. Guessing that the kit comes with fitted O rings, so don’t really need the spares either. The gaskets of course I would need, are the black ones better than the green ones?
The other parts do fail - when my thermostat failed at 102k, the main housing and insert were fine, the curved pipe had cracked and split causing catastrophic coolant loss (others members have had this too) and one end of the straight pipe was breaking off upon removal.

The failure of the curved pipe was probably due to repeated movement caused by the weight of the coolant hose clipped to it, which can bounce up and down as you drive over bumps.

I have also had a temperature sensor fail, after I again had catastrophic coolant loss when a hose split.

I personally would do the job once, using the best possible parts.
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Old 9th March 2020, 09:34   #17
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Yes, I’ve read of cases too of the plastic parts cracking but, touch wood, have yet to experience this myself, mind you I’ve always opted to remove the whole inlet manifold as opposed to the key-hole method.
Never had a temp. sensor fail either, to quote T-Cut “The sensor itself is generally bulletproof”.
I don’t doubt for a second that Kaiser’s parts are in every way superior but as I’ve got many spares I was just wondering if they matched the metal parts, would be nice to know one way or the other, including the other question on black vs green IMGs. Unfortunately still waiting on answers to those.

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The failure of the curved pipe was probably due to repeated movement caused by the weight of the coolant hose clipped to it ...
This is a very likely possibility and one which can be avoided by making sure that the clips on the straight pipe are moved fully outwards, thus creating a very rigid assembly. This procedure is actually in RAVE's workshop instructions, but it's not written clearly and so is easily missed.

Those clips were a conscious design feature. They are seated in a recess allowing controlled adjustment. They have serrated jaws as a locking device. They cannot squeeze the pipe radially because it's hard plastic. If anyone is not yet convinced, consider what their function otherwise might be.

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