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The definitive answer.
I got out the College car mount yesterday and gave it a really good shake, my wrists made more noise than the mount as it made no sound at all, no sloshing or even a hint of fluid moving around. I then hung it upside down till this morning to give the fluid a chance to sink to the top of the mount, I've given it a good shake again and guess what? Nothing, not a peep. There's isn't a more authentic mount than this one and it makes no noise at all, I also have a very good used one and that's also silent. The other part of my test was the push test to see if I could move it off centre at the tip, I got it to move about 1/4 inch, even with my strength.
It leads to the conclusion that any mounts that make a sloshing noise are just tat and not fit for use, they might do a job but not THE job they're intended for. I wouldn't buy one that sounds like a garden water feature in use. The last part is....before anyone asks....No! |
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Just to add a little more to this. I consider the internals of these mounts as a 'sealed' hydraulic system, 'loosely' similar to the braking system of the car. Do you want air in the braking system hydraulics? .
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Kkb103360
If and when i need one on my R40 diesel Auto it will most likely be an FL1 as they fit our cars with a tiny modification, cutting the thread down a bit.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RH-Engine...0/370491145997
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That is the question I was about to ask!
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I was aware of using the freelander version and cutting down the thread. Only thought is - who is making these now? One ebay ref for the same search, from a Landy supplier says; Equivalent to Land Rover KKB103360 (used for reference only) Applicable to the following : Freelander 1 – All model years - Td4 Diesel Automatic Freelander 1 – All model years - V6 Petrol https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RH-Engine...-/370491145997 So it looks as though that part has been combined for the V6/ TD Freelander also |
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Steve, that link does not work ? though I have found the item 370491145997 SteveN
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Not according to one of the Rover develpoment engineers: The original Rover hydramounts fitted were essentially the same dimensionally but the rubber hardness was different for the 3 engine types due to the differing engine weight which needed to be supported. The 1.8 (blue paint spot) was 115 N/mm The V6 (green spot) was 130 N/mm The diesel (yellow spot) was 160 N/mm These rates were designed to give approximately 8mm deflection due to the weight of the engine. So, you could fit stiffer mounts to the lighter versions but I wouldn't fit either of the petrol mounts to a diesel as they will be less durable and may sink so low that they sit on the internal snubber increasing noise and vibration. The stiffer mounts will have noise/refinement penalties on the lighter engines but they will work. |
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30N difference means that, if it deflects 8mm on a 160N/mm it will probably be nearer 10mm on 130 (citation required) which seems small for a static load but probably more significant when its bouncing about in use. I was holding out hope that the air bubble gave some compressible damping! I think you're correct in this statement though. |
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