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hello martin , been trying to do some digging for you. It seems that the petrol tanks on all variants are the same. Even the V8 looks to be the same tank and pump and filter. The only petrol tank number i can find is WHW000010 . Rimmers have removed parts numbers now , on all items no longer stocked or unavailable,which makes things difficult to check history of superseeded or uprated parts. I dont have access to XPART part numbers but someone may have on here. What i find interesting on rimmers website is that the part numbers for the rubber sealing rings and the metal locking rings have not been changed. The pumps have and the filter units have.They are clearly marked with chassis numbers before and after certain production numbers. This would seem to suggest that the fitting rings and seals are indeed the same. That being the case then the rings and seals fit all variants. i presume that you have a mk1 tank spare into which you wish to transfer your current mk2 pump and filter assembly gubbins into ? People have replaced the seals and lockrings on here many times on both mk1 and mk2 and not commented that they did not fit, or i have not heard of it . The digging that i have done is not definitive by any means but is encouraging. Even if the bore diameters of the tank for the pump and filters were slightly different,the seals and rings must fit ok on all . i hope that someone can dig out some part numbers on the tanks to see if there are any changes to fitment...
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Hi Martin & Stefan,
I've had a look at a 2002 Electronic Parts Catalogue (which doesn't cover the 1.8T unfortunately). There were three tanks, two pump units and two filter module units with tubes. All are common to the KV6 and 1.8. To VIN 224760 Tank = WFE 106031 Pump unit = WFX 100922 including pump WFX 101160 Filter module unit = WGS 100031 From VIN 224761 > 225075 Tank = WFE 106032 Pump unit: no change Filter module unit: no change VIN 225076 on Tank = WHW 000010 Pump unit = WFX 101471 including pump XNB 000030 Filter module unit: WGS 100071 So Martin, I'd say that if you fit one of the above tanks complete with its own pump unit and filter module unit then all will be o.k. However if a tank came from a 1.8T then it could be a different story as the pump has twice the flow rate of the other petrol engines. I hope this helps. Simon
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Hi Stefan & Simon,
Thanks for your responses which are most helpful. I am intending to fit a tank complete with filter and pump from a 2002 Rover 75 with KV6 engine. My car is a 2003 MG ZTT with a KV6 engine. Having looked at the connections they look the same although the tops of the pump look slightly different. Stefan, I am intending to remove the brake cables from the backplates unless they are rusted in, I hope that will not be the case as the car has only covered about 67,000 miles. It looks like the connections at the compensator might be more difficult to remove. It doesn't look as though it is necessary to remove the sub-frame. I am very fortunate that I have a two post lift so it should be relatively easy to remove the tank, (famous last words) the days of lying on my back underneath cars are thankfully well over! Martin |
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im pretty sure that the tank can be manipulated over the handbrake cables , without disconnecting at either the hubs or compensator. release the handbrake lever fully and it should come out with a bit of hassle if you unclip the cables along their paths where poss. you need 2 people to do this job . you can try this first before plan B at the backplates. The chances are that at least one or both may be seized into the backplates. I am sure you are aware then that in most cases the "collars" will need to be cut and opened up to remove the cable.New backplates then needed sadly. i hope all goes well for you and let us know how you go on. thanks for the update. ...
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Fuel tank
Recently had the tanks out on both of mine to do some rusty brake pipes. Just had to drop the handbrake cables out of the way without disconnecting them from the handbrake or the backplate. Just unclipped them ant removed the plate that holds them to the rear subframe. Unplugged what I could from inside the car underneath the back seat, hatches x2, and then disconnected the fat pipe from under the car. All done on the driveway on axle stands. Time consuming but not difficult.j
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The V8 uses a 1.8t in tank fuel pump.
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yes andy your right. All the same tank on petrols. Just the part numbers being altered probably due to bmw or mgr part number change overs or prices or whatever. Martin should be able to syphon most of the existing fuel out with some hose of a decent length to help him with spillage avoidance. i just hope his new pump is a good one and could be tested first before install off the car.
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