KV6 HGF...worth repairing?? - Page 4

chris75 · 18th March 2021, 20:42

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Originally Posted by paulh260260

Cheers Chris

Whats the best compression tester to get? Ive looked on e-bay and its given me a headache (1038 under engine compression testers!!!)

Also if I test the cylinders ( all 6 as you say) and they come back OK will that discount the warped engine theory?

Paul

I couldn't say which is the best

but anyone that works will do

Don't spend a lot .
It just needs a flexible tube to reach round to the the rear plug holes , otherwise it is a simple thing .My own is a Draper which I have had for many years and does the job fine. I don't for a minute expect that you have a warped head but a consistent set of readings would indicate against that. It would also indicate against any leaks from the gasket , except possibly one between an oil passage and a water passage , but in that event I would expect you to be using a lot of water .

paulh260260 · 19th March 2021, 07:45

I've spent a few hours researching compression testers as well as the combustion leak tester kits and I am now totally confused.

I know each perform differently but both claim to test and check for gasket or block damage, cracked heads or cylinder warp the first by lack of compression in the cylinders and the last by exhaust gasses in the coolant.

But...

Which one should I buy, or should I buy one of each?

If I only need a leak tester that looks a lot easier to use than a compression tester and should still tell me whether the I've got HGF, (allegedly)

In each case there are a plethora of choices from £10 up to £70 for the compression testers and £8 to £50 for the leak testers.

Can someone advise me the most suitable one (or ones) for the KV6 ( I use Red OAT if that makes a difference ) preferably ones that have been used and proven to work and fit the KV6

Cheers

Paul

trikey · 19th March 2021, 09:50

I wouldn’t buy a compression tester yet, do the oil cooler, and check the other suspects first.

If then you still want to do a compression test I’ll post you my tester up.

paulh260260 · 19th March 2021, 10:37

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Originally Posted by trikey

I wouldn’t buy a compression tester yet, do the oil cooler, and check the other suspects first.

If then you still want to do a compression test I’ll post you my tester up.

Thanks for that Trikey

Also...

I've just been out to give her a turn over and there was not a sniff of exhaust gas on the header cap or in the header tank, either when cold or after a 10 minute idle.

On the idle I checked for smoke and there was a little but not more than Id expect on a nippy morning in Manchester. There was no more noticeable smoke when I revved the engine briefly either.

So quite a few of the tell tale signs of HGF seem absent.

I really could do with a more experienced Eye ( and Ear) to look at this for a second opinion does anyone know of a north west expert ( aside from Jules who I'm aware of but may be a little too far away )

Thanks again

Paul

CLINTE · 19th March 2021, 11:22

Hi Paul,

To answer your question of a "North West Expert" I used to deal with Paul Kennedy who owns P.K. Automotive which is based in Wigan in Leyland Mill Lane ( near the hospital ) . His telephone number is 01942 238884 should you wish to contact him.

Paul worked at the Rover main dealers in Wigan ( Foxfields ) for 23 years and when it all folded he set up his own business.

Clinte

paulh260260 · 19th March 2021, 12:58

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Originally Posted by CLINTE

Hi Paul,

To answer your question of a "North West Expert" I used to deal with Paul Kennedy who owns P.K. Automotive which is based in Wigan in Leyland Mill Lane ( near the hospital ) . His telephone number is 01942 238884 should you wish to contact him.

Paul worked at the Rover main dealers in Wigan ( Foxfields ) for 23 years and when it all folded he set up his own business.

Clinte

That brilliant Clinte thanks, Ill give Paul a call

Paul

COLVERT · 19th March 2021, 17:17

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Originally Posted by CLINTE

Hi Paul,

To answer your question of a "North West Expert" I used to deal with Paul Kennedy who owns P.K. Automotive which is based in Wigan in Leyland Mill Lane ( near the hospital ) . His telephone number is 01942 238884 should you wish to contact him.

Paul worked at the Rover main dealers in Wigan ( Foxfields ) for 23 years and when it all folded he set up his own business.

Clinte

Is Paul in the forum list of experts ?--

paulh260260 · 20th March 2021, 16:44

***Update***

I've managed to record the engine noise when idling having just warmed up heres the you tube link

https://youtu.be/v23gdDYDxus

Does this sound healthy? if not does it suggest problems

Cheers

Teflon · 20th March 2021, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulh260260

***Update***

I've managed to record the engine noise when idling having just warmed up heres the you tube link

https://youtu.be/v23gdDYDxus

Does this sound healthy? if not does it suggest problems

Cheers

The link is coming up as private - I think you may need to change permissions on Youtube.

Cliff

paulh260260 · 20th March 2021, 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teflon

The link is coming up as private - I think you may need to change permissions on Youtube.

Cliff

Oops, now changed, thanks Cliff

19th March 2021, 09:50	#33
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19th March 2021, 11:22	#35
CLINTE Loves to post Rover & MG less Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: ELLESMERE PORT Posts: 320 Thanks: 44 Thanked 97 Times in 90 Posts	Hi Paul, To answer your question of a "North West Expert" I used to deal with Paul Kennedy who owns P.K. Automotive which is based in Wigan in Leyland Mill Lane ( near the hospital ) . His telephone number is 01942 238884 should you wish to contact him. Paul worked at the Rover main dealers in Wigan ( Foxfields ) for 23 years and when it all folded he set up his own business. Clinte

20th March 2021, 16:44	#38
paulh260260 Still learning... Gold 04 75 Connie SE 2.5 V6 Petrol, Silver 52 Connie SE 2.5 V6 Petrol, 04 BRG Connie 2.5 V6 Petrol Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MANCHESTER Posts: 231 Thanks: 129 Thanked 40 Times in 27 Posts	*Update* I've managed to record the engine noise when idling having just warmed up heres the you tube link https://youtu.be/v23gdDYDxus Does this sound healthy? if not does it suggest problems Cheers