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Old 19th June 2019, 10:06   #1
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Question Dropping the exhaust - advice please

How far can the exhaust be dropped at the rear?

I'm going to swap my rear subframe for a new one, so I'm trying to figure out the best way of doing it.

These bits will also be swapped for new ones at the same time as the subframe:
  • Rear trailing arms
  • Rear upper arms
  • Rear lower arms
  • Rear dampers
  • Rear springs
  • Rear roll bar
  • Rear hubs
  • Rear brake backplates
Thanks in advance.


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Old 19th June 2019, 10:22   #2
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Removing the whole exhaust on a diesel is not to bad a job except for the rear hangers. To avoid strain on the flexi pipe it may be better to remove the whole lot.
Is there a joint anywhere that you can split so you only remove the rear section? Mind you this may be easier said then done

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Old 19th June 2019, 10:51   #3
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It's the original 2002 factory exhaust on a petrol saloon.

I've been out to have a look and I can't see any joints at all - at least nothing that looks like a 'normal' joint with a clamp.

According to Rimmers page there should be a joint right behind the cat but I can't see one on mine.

I can't see a flexi-pipe either.
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According to Rimmers page there should be a joint right behind the cat but I can't see one on mine.
You won't find any joints in the factory fitted system. They were one piece. Rimmer's parts listing is for exhaust system replacement, which is done in sections. So, replacing just the tail end or any other part, means cutting the original pipe at the appropriate places.

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You won't find any joints in the factory fitted system. They were one piece. Rimmer's parts listing is for exhaust system replacement, which is done in sections. So, replacing just the tail end or any other part, means cutting the original pipe at the appropriate places.

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I see. What's the best way of doing all this then TC? (Bearing in mind I don't have access to a lift or a pit).

I've got a new exhaust centre section (Klarius) and a rear box (Bosal). The centre has two silencers and looks like #8 here, complete with hooks. The Bosal looks like #10 without the 'ribbing'. The Klarius and Bosal fit together ok, so it's a case of joining the forward end of the Klarius onto the pipe coming out of the rear end of the cat (assuming there's an appropriate cutting point).

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I see. What's the best way of doing all this then TC? (Bearing in mind I don't have access to a lift or a pit).
Perhaps this is Plan A:
  • Cut the old exhaust off somewhere between the two boxes on the centre section - that gets it out of the way of the subframe altogether
  • Do all the work shown in post 1
  • Re-cut the exhaust at the appropriate point behind the cat and fit the new Klarius/Bosal mid/rear end
What can possibly go wrong.
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What's the best way of doing all this then TC? (Bearing in mind I don't have access to a lift or a pit).
Can you ask a local garage to fit the parts for you? You'll find it extremly difficult using ramps.
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I see. What's the best way of doing all this then TC? (Bearing in mind I don't have access to a lift or a pit).
I've done a few exhaust changes using ramps at the back and axle stands at the front. Bit cosy underneath but do-able.

Forget the old adage about measuring twice and cutting once - I measured three or four times just to be on the safe side.
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As Jim has mentioned, removal of the tunnel braces will allow the exhaust to drop to the ground, but as mentioned also previously, support around the flexi.

As I was doing mine in the street over a 5 day period, I also supported it on its length using bungee cords.

Once lowered, you can move the pipe around a fair bit to allow easier removal of the subframe.

Be careful when lowering it though, it is heavier than it appears, but is quite obvious once underneath.

Whilst you are under preparing for the task, spray all nuts and bolts with some proper penetrating fluid and go over them with a wire brush too. It all should be pretty obvious once under and looking at the components.

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Old 20th June 2019, 15:05   #10
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Where is the flexi-pipe Alan? I can't see it without crawling underneath (which I can't do until the support sleepers arrive).

Is there a penetrating fluid you'd recommend? I've only got WD40 at the moment.
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