Fuel filter separation

mikemc75 · 17th April 2010, 18:46

Firstly, apologies if someone has already done this - I searched for the 'Fabled Orange Clip' and, although there were several threads, I didn't see any pictures!

When my car refused to start shortly after I bought it, with the help of this forum I quickly diagnosed fuel filter separation, and fixed it. I didn't have time to get a clip, and I thought that as it had done 60,00 miles before falling apart it would last another 60,00 if properly tightened!

Wrong! It happened again on Wedensday after only 20,000. I went to start it and heard a clunk from the rear seat. When the car failed to start I realised that it had been the filter separating. Fortunately I have dual-fuel, so was able to get it started on LPG.

Having bought the clip from a local dealer (£5.36 seems a lot for a small piece of plastic, but the car's worth it!) I thought that I would photograph things. Hope that the following helps!

Just tried to attach the pictures. This hasn't worked out like I hoped - I wanted to add a picture and explain what was happening (other users have done this!). Alll I can do is attach 5 thumbnails - unless someone can tell me how to attach the pictures, this will have to do!

GreyGhost · 17th April 2010, 19:05

If you upload your pics to your image gallery, 800 X 600 is a good size, Then copy the BB code from the field below each picture. Then paste into your post. That will do the trick.
Once the new look forum is up and running a pdf of the fuel filter fix will be created using the pics and dialogue from various threads in an easily searchable database.

Any problems with pics, they can be emailed to me, PM for address, and I will upload them for you.

Thanks for doing this.

mikemc75 · 18th April 2010, 10:57

Thanks Grey Ghost

- here goes

The clip

Not a difficult job, just make sure that you don't drop the clip into the petrol tank, as I nearly did!

When replacing the filter, make sure that the two parts of the seal are together first, not like shown in the picture!

Car started first time!

GreyGhost · 18th April 2010, 11:02

Now copied, posted, and locked in the Engine and Technical How to forum.

It is advised that there is no more than half a tank of fuel present when carrying out this task. It may be necessary to siphon some off before starting the job.

There is another on the club site in the how to section but it is not as detailed as your pics.
Thanks again.

kaiser · 18th April 2010, 11:55

The other way is to screw a self tapping screw in between the top and the bottom flange, that costs nothing!

But nice pictures, now I know how the clip they all talk about looks!

mikemc75 · 18th April 2010, 17:54

No problem about the tank contents - its rarely more than a quarter full!

The self tapping screw was 'Plan B' when I thought that I'd dropped the clip in the tank!

GreyGhost · 18th April 2010, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemc75

No problem about the tank contents - its rarely more than a quarter full!

Just a general note for the unwary.

pipenslippers · 19th June 2010, 10:48

Spoke to guy at the garage this morning and they told me they'd removed the pump from the tank and tested it "on the bench". It didn't work. Twas dead deceased etc.

Said he'll will also check the filter today and install the fabled orange clip if required. Better get my credit card warmed up..

Pipe.

BTW is it worth asking for the failed pump back and getting it reconditioned/fixed ? (ie try 2 recoupe some of the cost)

T-Cut · 19th June 2010, 15:49

This would be the first case of a failed petrol pump on the forum as far as I can remember. They are usually bombproof. I also know that pumps are replaced by garages who either don't know what they're doing or are looking for some extra profit from an unwary customer. Considering their replacement cost, I'd suggest that you retreive the old pump for examination/recovery.

TC

18th April 2010, 10:57	#3
mikemc75 Regular poster Rover 75 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cheddar Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	fuel filter repair (with pics!) Thanks Grey Ghost - here goes The clip Not a difficult job, just make sure that you don't drop the clip into the petrol tank, as I nearly did! When replacing the filter, make sure that the two parts of the seal are together first, not like shown in the picture! Car started first time!

18th April 2010, 11:02	#4
GreyGhost Banned 180+ Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bedford Middle Level Posts: 17,787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 5 Posts	Now copied, posted, and locked in the Engine and Technical How to forum. It is advised that there is no more than half a tank of fuel present when carrying out this task. It may be necessary to siphon some off before starting the job. There is another on the club site in the how to section but it is not as detailed as your pics. Thanks again. Last edited by GreyGhost; 18th April 2010 at 11:05..

19th June 2010, 10:48	#8
pipenslippers Avid contributor MG ZT-T 260 SE Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nottingham Posts: 166 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looks like its a faulty pump after all Spoke to guy at the garage this morning and they told me they'd removed the pump from the tank and tested it "on the bench". It didn't work. Twas dead deceased etc. Said he'll will also check the filter today and install the fabled orange clip if required. Better get my credit card warmed up.. Pipe. BTW is it worth asking for the failed pump back and getting it reconditioned/fixed ? (ie try 2 recoupe some of the cost)

17th April 2010, 19:05	#2
GreyGhost Banned 180+ Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bedford Middle Level Posts: 17,787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 5 Posts	If you upload your pics to your image gallery, 800 X 600 is a good size, Then copy the BB code from the field below each picture. Then paste into your post. That will do the trick. Once the new look forum is up and running a pdf of the fuel filter fix will be created using the pics and dialogue from various threads in an easily searchable database. Any problems with pics, they can be emailed to me, PM for address, and I will upload them for you. Thanks for doing this.

18th April 2010, 11:55	#5
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	The other way is to screw a self tapping screw in between the top and the bottom flange, that costs nothing! But nice pictures, now I know how the clip they all talk about looks!

18th April 2010, 17:54	#6
mikemc75 Regular poster Rover 75 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cheddar Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	No problem about the tank contents - its rarely more than a quarter full! The self tapping screw was 'Plan B' when I thought that I'd dropped the clip in the tank!

19th June 2010, 15:49	#9
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	This would be the first case of a failed petrol pump on the forum as far as I can remember. They are usually bombproof. I also know that pumps are replaced by garages who either don't know what they're doing or are looking for some extra profit from an unwary customer. Considering their replacement cost, I'd suggest that you retreive the old pump for examination/recovery. TC