60 MPH speed limit on the M1 - Page 2

Peter Garton · 8th January 2014, 05:19

This sort of remedy strikes me as being one which has not been thought through, since there are other ways of reducing air pollution.
In Germany as everyone knows already, we don't have a speed limit on the Autobahns with the exception of certain stretches to reduce noise etc.
Since the police will not be able to control the limit consequently as they are'nt even now, a lot of people will ignore the limit.
When I come over and drive on the motorways, keeping strictly to any form of limit is impossible and one is continuously being overtaken, which is unnerving sometimes, thus one goes with the stream and drives just that bit faster.

deanbmx · 8th January 2014, 06:10

The majority of the vehicles causing the most pollution are limited to 56mph anyway.

SD1too · 8th January 2014, 06:51

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Originally Posted by deanbmx

The majority of the vehicles causing the most pollution are limited to 56mph anyway.

This was one of the points made in the BBC Radio 4 discussion, i.e. HGVs. Petrol engined vehicles and diesel cars have catalytic converters to prevent pollution, but of course the politicians' definition of that is not NOx or hydrocarbons or CO but carbon dioxide, and that premise is where the nonsense starts.

Simon

whitevanman · 8th January 2014, 07:08

A good start if on a 4 lane stretch, which it'll be if they use the hard shoulder would be to ban HGV from lanes 3 & 4..Down here on 4 lane sections of the M25 You still get congestion and a lot of the time it's 3 HGV's playing 'I can do 1 mph more than you' up a flipping incline..

johnnyb44 · 8th January 2014, 07:12

That drives me round the twist being stuck behind two trucks inching there way past each other.

MrDoodles · 8th January 2014, 07:48

You wouldn't mind if the great Co2 hadn't already been exposed as a con, but of course we still stick rigidly to everything thrown at us!

I can guarantee that the stretch will be either monitored by average speed or Gatso camera's and is nothing whatsoever to do with pollution!

But it's ok, as the Electorate in this Country simply accept anything that is done to them by the Government!

Roverite · 8th January 2014, 14:41

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Originally Posted by MrDoodles

You wouldn't mind if the great Co2 hadn't already been exposed as a con, but of course we still stick rigidly to everything thrown at us!

I can guarantee that the stretch will be either monitored by average speed or Gatso camera's and is nothing whatsoever to do with pollution!

But it's ok, as the Electorate in this Country simply accept anything that is done to them by the Government!

Agreed, and the motorist pays £50 billion a year in motoring taxes, for most of it to be squandered on this sort of nonsense, speed humps, cycle lanes, subsidising public transport, etc. It is little wonder that our road infrastructure is fast approaching that of a third world country.

Up until the 1960s, there was no national speed limit and AC Cobras were being road tested up the M1 at 180mph, which led to the experimental (now permanent), 70 mph limit. We did have a 50 mph limit during the 1970s fuel crises, but recently, politicians were suggesting raising the limit to 80 mph on motorways. Confused? You bet.

We have too many self centered groups advising our gullible politicians. Only this week we are told that farmers have been stopped by the Environment Agency, from clearing ditches and rivers, because it disturbs the 'wild life'. It doesn't matter about the 'human' misery caused by the flooding then! Give me strength.

Sorry for the rant, but we just seem to sit back and take it in Britain.

Roverite.

MrDoodles · 8th January 2014, 14:55

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Originally Posted by Roverite

Agreed, and the motorist pays £50 billion a year in motoring taxes, for most of it to be squandered on this sort of nonsense, speed humps, cycle lanes, subsidising public transport, etc. It is little wonder that our road infrastructure is fast approaching that of a third world country.

Up until the 1960s, there was no national speed limit and AC Cobras were being road tested up the M1 at 180mph, which led to the experimental (now permanent), 70 mph limit. We did have a 50 mph limit during the 1970s fuel crises, but recently, politicians were suggesting raising the limit to 80 mph on motorways. Confused? You bet.

We have too many self centered groups advising our gullible politicians. Only this week we are told that farmers have been stopped by the Environment Agency, from clearing ditches and rivers, because it disturbs the 'wild life'. It doesn't matter about the 'human' misery caused by the flooding then! Give me strength.

Sorry for the rant, but we just seem to sit back and take it in Britain.

Roverite.

Can only agree!

The Electorate really need to give the LibLabCon a good kick up the backside in both the Euro's this Year and the General next year, sadly, I won't hold my breath!

bl52krz · 8th January 2014, 20:07

What they really want is to get us to the stage where we will have a man/women walking in front with a red flag, and living in caves again.

bl52krz · 8th January 2014, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Roverite

Agreed, and the motorist pays £50 billion a year in motoring taxes, for most of it to be squandered on this sort of nonsense, speed humps, cycle lanes, subsidising public transport, etc. It is little wonder that our road infrastructure is fast approaching that of a third world country.

Up until the 1960s, there was no national speed limit and AC Cobras were being road tested up the M1 at 180mph, which led to the experimental (now permanent), 70 mph limit. We did have a 50 mph limit during the 1970s fuel crises, but recently, politicians were suggesting raising the limit to 80 mph on motorways. Confused? You bet.

We have too many self centered groups advising our gullible politicians. Only this week we are told that farmers have been stopped by the Environment Agency, from clearing ditches and rivers, because it disturbs the 'wild life'. It doesn't matter about the 'human' misery caused by the flooding then! Give me strength.

Sorry for the rant, but we just seem to sit back and take it in Britain.

Roverite.

Could this be the time when all motoring clubs joined forces and had a nice weekend out down that dump called London, and drove round nice and slow to bring the traffic to a halt, then get the flags out in protestation of all things anti car..................
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...........................................No. Thought not. that is why we are shat on from a great hight.

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8th January 2014, 05:19	#11
Peter Garton Regular poster Rover75 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Koblenz Posts: 87 Thanks: 16 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts	This sort of remedy strikes me as being one which has not been thought through, since there are other ways of reducing air pollution. In Germany as everyone knows already, we don't have a speed limit on the Autobahns with the exception of certain stretches to reduce noise etc. Since the police will not be able to control the limit consequently as they are'nt even now, a lot of people will ignore the limit. When I come over and drive on the motorways, keeping strictly to any form of limit is impossible and one is continuously being overtaken, which is unnerving sometimes, thus one goes with the stream and drives just that bit faster.

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deanbmx Gets stuck in mg zt-t Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: nottingham Posts: 757 Thanks: 14 Thanked 45 Times in 42 Posts	The majority of the vehicles causing the most pollution are limited to 56mph anyway.

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MrDoodles Banned MG ZT+ V6 190 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Spalding Posts: 13,245 Thanks: 369 Thanked 1,196 Times in 818 Posts	You wouldn't mind if the great Co2 hadn't already been exposed as a con, but of course we still stick rigidly to everything thrown at us! I can guarantee that the stretch will be either monitored by average speed or Gatso camera's and is nothing whatsoever to do with pollution! But it's ok, as the Electorate in this Country simply accept anything that is done to them by the Government!