Connor brakes woes

Chris Broughton · 2nd August 2010, 11:33

2003 Connie Se Cdti Auto Estate

Have been topping brake fluid up every month or so.Just a small amount but lately have noticed some brake fade. Took car into quick fit for a brake check and explained symptoms. They said pads were fine discs slightly warped but stll with meat on.
They could not see any signs of fluid leak so their verdict is the car needs a new master cylinder.
Understand from Rimmers these on back order and not available at mo.local dealer says they have not known a master cylinder go on a 75.

Just wondered if anyone had a view/advice on this one

Chris

HarryM1BYT · 2nd August 2010, 16:58

It is normal for the fluid level to go down slowly, as the pads and to some extent the disk wears down. If they say there is no fluid loss, then I would assume there is no fluid loss from anywhere including the master cylinder - so how come they diagnosed a fault on the mater cylinder?

What exactly do you mean by brake fade?

1. The brakes suddenly whilst in heavy use become less effective.

2. The pedal starts to fall to the floor as you maintain the pressure on it with your foot whilst braking?

3. The pedal becomes soft and spongy whilst using it.

Chris Broughton · 2nd August 2010, 18:16

When used heavily from Motorway Speeds brake fade experienced.
The fluid is due for change as it's been a couple of
years. Am keeping an eye on fluid level and taking Connie for big service on Thursday at local Garage with Rover Trained mechanics. The guy I talked to says he has ten years experience on Rovers and has not had a 75 Master Cylinder fail yet. Will change the fluid and have brakes cleaned and adjusted and then keep an eye on it. Could well do with out the cost of replacing the Master Cylinder at the moment assuming I could get one !

Thanks
Chris

crofts · 3rd August 2010, 01:26

Must agree, I cannot recall any member reporting that they had to replace BMCyl. If that is the case I cannot believe there is not one available. It was common at one time to replace the seals and kits were available. Perhaps not for the 75 though.
Would be surprised if you could not find one on ebay though have you checked with XPart as they can check with branches countrywide.
If the above fails try Les at SMC, amazing what he has available. Maybe Land Rover MCyl. is interchangeable ??
Let us know what you find.

crofts · 3rd August 2010, 04:13

Here is a used one on ebay. Looks in good condition.
£22 incl. P&P
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-75-MG-ZT...item3f00b8c623

Sorry, see it's for a 2.5 though it may be the same

Alan.F · 3rd August 2010, 05:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Broughton

When used heavily from Motorway Speeds brake fade experienced.
The fluid is due for change as it's been a couple of

Thanks
Chris

This could mean that th brakes are getting hot i used to experience this on my old 45 impression S diesel

2nd August 2010, 11:33	#1
Chris Broughton Loves to post 2003 Rover 75 CDTi Tourer Connie SE + Projectors ,Chrome Grille +Hi Line Nav,Walnut Kit,Sunroof. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LINCOLNSHIRE Posts: 389 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Connor brakes woes 2003 Connie Se Cdti Auto Estate Have been topping brake fluid up every month or so.Just a small amount but lately have noticed some brake fade. Took car into quick fit for a brake check and explained symptoms. They said pads were fine discs slightly warped but stll with meat on. They could not see any signs of fluid leak so their verdict is the car needs a new master cylinder. Understand from Rimmers these on back order and not available at mo.local dealer says they have not known a master cylinder go on a 75. Just wondered if anyone had a view/advice on this one Chris __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] CONNIE AND BONNIE TRUE BRITISH ICONS

2nd August 2010, 18:16	#3
Chris Broughton Loves to post 2003 Rover 75 CDTi Tourer Connie SE + Projectors ,Chrome Grille +Hi Line Nav,Walnut Kit,Sunroof. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LINCOLNSHIRE Posts: 389 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Connie Brakes When used heavily from Motorway Speeds brake fade experienced. The fluid is due for change as it's been a couple of years. Am keeping an eye on fluid level and taking Connie for big service on Thursday at local Garage with Rover Trained mechanics. The guy I talked to says he has ten years experience on Rovers and has not had a 75 Master Cylinder fail yet. Will change the fluid and have brakes cleaned and adjusted and then keep an eye on it. Could well do with out the cost of replacing the Master Cylinder at the moment assuming I could get one ! Thanks Chris __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] CONNIE AND BONNIE TRUE BRITISH ICONS

3rd August 2010, 01:26	#4
crofts I really should get out more....... 2003 Rover 75 Conn. SE Auto Tourer 131 ps CDTi Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 2,512 Thanks: 38 Thanked 67 Times in 55 Posts	Brake Master Cyl. Must agree, I cannot recall any member reporting that they had to replace BMCyl. If that is the case I cannot believe there is not one available. It was common at one time to replace the seals and kits were available. Perhaps not for the 75 though. Would be surprised if you could not find one on ebay though have you checked with XPart as they can check with branches countrywide. If the above fails try Les at SMC, amazing what he has available. Maybe Land Rover MCyl. is interchangeable ?? Let us know what you find. __________________ Rover 75 CDTi SE Connoisseur Tourer (2003) In desirable STARLIGHT SILVER (now restored to it's former glory with all the chrome !)

3rd August 2010, 04:13	#5
crofts I really should get out more....... 2003 Rover 75 Conn. SE Auto Tourer 131 ps CDTi Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 2,512 Thanks: 38 Thanked 67 Times in 55 Posts	Brake Master Cyl. Here is a used one on ebay. Looks in good condition. £22 incl. P&P http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-75-MG-ZT...item3f00b8c623 Sorry, see it's for a 2.5 though it may be the same __________________ Rover 75 CDTi SE Connoisseur Tourer (2003) In desirable STARLIGHT SILVER (now restored to it's former glory with all the chrome !) Last edited by crofts; 3rd August 2010 at 04:17.. Reason: for 2.5 !

2nd August 2010, 16:58	#2
HarryM1BYT This is my second home 75 Contemporary SE Mk II 2004 Man. Sal. CDTi 135ps, FBH on red diesel, WinCE6 DD Join Date: May 2010 Location: Leeds Posts: 17,273 Thanks: 2,160 Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,586 Posts	It is normal for the fluid level to go down slowly, as the pads and to some extent the disk wears down. If they say there is no fluid loss, then I would assume there is no fluid loss from anywhere including the master cylinder - so how come they diagnosed a fault on the mater cylinder? What exactly do you mean by brake fade? 1. The brakes suddenly whilst in heavy use become less effective. 2. The pedal starts to fall to the floor as you maintain the pressure on it with your foot whilst braking? 3. The pedal becomes soft and spongy whilst using it.