KV6 - Need to know anything?

Tatts · 5th April 2008, 08:51

Don't think these have been posted before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC7i5R6lpEQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Wl0...page=1&t=t&f=b

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fFx8SPiTSc

The 3rd video - makes it look oh so easy!

bad-head-day · 5th April 2008, 10:11

Great videos

willshot · 5th April 2008, 19:04

Thanks for that, Paul. Clearly NOT a DIY job - EEEEEEEEEEEK !!!!!
That's why Mr Lates is doing mine next month.

salop75 · 5th April 2008, 19:28

Great videos! Thanks!

The second video talks about the VIS system, but shows the intake and valves to be made from cast alloy and not the thermoplastic on the R75 KV6. I presume the videos are showing the R800 KV6?

Is the R800 VIS system better or more reliable, and is it transferable to a R75?

Tatts · 5th April 2008, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by willshot

Thanks for that, Paul. Clearly NOT a DIY job - EEEEEEEEEEEK !!!!!
That's why Mr Lates is doing mine next month.

Hell no! Thats way above my meager abilities!

Quote:

Originally Posted by salop75

Great videos! Thanks!

The second video talks about the VIS system, but shows the intake and valves to be made from cast alloy and not the thermoplastic on the R75 KV6. I presume the videos are showing the R800 KV6?

Is the R800 VIS system better or more reliable, and is it transferable to a R75?

Yep, the R800 KV6. Different, although the principles are similar. not transferable afaik, which is a shame, it seems a bit more robust than the version we have now.

merc1836 · 5th April 2008, 20:32

personally thought that the prices charged for the cambelt change was a bit steep, em, now i can see why they charge what they do, especially when they are doing the belts with the engine in the car

Simon · 5th April 2008, 20:36

With regard to the manifold - yes the R800 KV6 was a alloy manifold with a different throttle body. When development for R40 was undertaken then KV6 from the R800 was developed further and refined for a more mass-produced line. The thermoplastic manifold was implemented to aid mass-production (and probably other reasons so I applogise for my knowledge gaps here

).

sworks · 6th April 2008, 11:37

nice find Tatts - very interesting watching. The cambelt change video makes it look easy compared to when the engine is in the car.

BigJacko · 6th April 2008, 13:18

Brilliant videos - well done for finding them and letting us know. I'm certainly a great deal more educated about the KV6 today than I was yesterday!

Having said that - it's raised a doubt or two in my mind... perhaps those with experience here can put my mind at rest. Now that Rover is gone, how can we be certain that any garage offering service - specifically a cambelt change - will be (a) using the correct tools to lock the camshaft gears so that they don't damage the camshaft when rotating it to remove the bolts and (b) replacing these camshaft end bolts (which according to the video are 'one-use, one-stretch' items), with brand new ones, and not just refitting the old?

I'm sure one gets what one pays for, and all that, but how can we KNOW that these bits are being done properly? Frankly, given what I've heard and read about 'certain (ex-)main dealers' I wouldn't trust them further than I could bend the Post Office Tower. And short-cutting a job like this could be terminal for your engine - and you'd never be able to prove a thing.

Do you guys just take it all on trust, or do you know a main dealer that'll let you sit in a visitors gallery and watch while they perform 'open heart surgery' on your pride-n-joy's engine?

Sometimes too much knowledge is a scary thing, isn't it? LOL!

Simon · 6th April 2008, 16:06

You're in the right place to come for comments on garages

If you want any recommendations come servicing time then just ask, no doubt someone on here will know a garage in your area that they recommend.

If you fancy a (long) trip to Coventry area then there is really only one man for the job and that's Lates and his crew (Pete and Tom). They even have customers as far a field as mainland Europe - I kid you not

5th April 2008, 08:51	#1
Tatts This is my second home MG6 TL Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tarn Posts: 5,269 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 37 Posts	KV6 - Need to know anything? Don't think these have been posted before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC7i5R6lpEQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Wl0...page=1&t=t&f=b http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fFx8SPiTSc The 3rd video - makes it look oh so easy! __________________ http://www.wcgsig.com/115562.gif

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bad-head-day Loves to post Citroen C4 Loeb Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 372 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great videos

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willshot Posted a thing or two Ex-ZI190 owner. ,Ford Focus RS Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Malton Posts: 1,573 Thanks: 1,123 Thanked 301 Times in 198 Posts	Thanks for that, Paul. Clearly NOT a DIY job - EEEEEEEEEEEK !!!!! That's why Mr Lates is doing mine next month.

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salop75 Avid contributor Rover 75 2.5 Conn SE Saloon Auto Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Shrewsbury Posts: 193 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great videos! Thanks! The second video talks about the VIS system, but shows the intake and valves to be made from cast alloy and not the thermoplastic on the R75 KV6. I presume the videos are showing the R800 KV6? Is the R800 VIS system better or more reliable, and is it transferable to a R75?

5th April 2008, 20:32	#6
merc1836 Newbie none at the moment Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: fife scotland Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	personally thought that the prices charged for the cambelt change was a bit steep, em, now i can see why they charge what they do, especially when they are doing the belts with the engine in the car

5th April 2008, 20:36	#7
Simon Banned - Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: - Posts: 10,318 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	With regard to the manifold - yes the R800 KV6 was a alloy manifold with a different throttle body. When development for R40 was undertaken then KV6 from the R800 was developed further and refined for a more mass-produced line. The thermoplastic manifold was implemented to aid mass-production (and probably other reasons so I applogise for my knowledge gaps here ).

6th April 2008, 11:37	#8
sworks Been absent for a while… Rover 75 Tourer, Classic mini Cooper S, Abarth 595 competizione, MG TF and a Hyundai Tucson PHEV Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria Posts: 13,065 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 1,686 Times in 1,040 Posts	nice find Tatts - very interesting watching. The cambelt change video makes it look easy compared to when the engine is in the car.

6th April 2008, 13:18	#9
BigJacko Avid contributor Rover 75 Tourer 2.0 V6 Club (2002) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bath Posts: 236 Thanks: 47 Thanked 16 Times in 12 Posts	Brilliant videos - well done for finding them and letting us know. I'm certainly a great deal more educated about the KV6 today than I was yesterday! Having said that - it's raised a doubt or two in my mind... perhaps those with experience here can put my mind at rest. Now that Rover is gone, how can we be certain that any garage offering service - specifically a cambelt change - will be (a) using the correct tools to lock the camshaft gears so that they don't damage the camshaft when rotating it to remove the bolts and (b) replacing these camshaft end bolts (which according to the video are 'one-use, one-stretch' items), with brand new ones, and not just refitting the old? I'm sure one gets what one pays for, and all that, but how can we KNOW that these bits are being done properly? Frankly, given what I've heard and read about 'certain (ex-)main dealers' I wouldn't trust them further than I could bend the Post Office Tower. And short-cutting a job like this could be terminal for your engine - and you'd never be able to prove a thing. Do you guys just take it all on trust, or do you know a main dealer that'll let you sit in a visitors gallery and watch while they perform 'open heart surgery' on your pride-n-joy's engine? Sometimes too much knowledge is a scary thing, isn't it? LOL!

6th April 2008, 16:06	#10
Simon Banned - Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: - Posts: 10,318 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	You're in the right place to come for comments on garages If you want any recommendations come servicing time then just ask, no doubt someone on here will know a garage in your area that they recommend. If you fancy a (long) trip to Coventry area then there is really only one man for the job and that's Lates and his crew (Pete and Tom). They even have customers as far a field as mainland Europe - I kid you not