Rover 75 Prototype Fiat engine

CPowell78 · 8th January 2015, 10:23

Well after not touching our Prototype 75 for nearly 12 months due to massive work load last year we decided we should start work on it!
So on Monday we got it into the workshop and started. The ECU was submerged in water so we didn't hold out much hope and due to it being a one off ECU with prototype stickers all over it it was very much squeaky bum time! but after two days of drying out it seemed ok.
The wiring for the main engine loom had been joined not very well so we cut it all back and started and again. The speedo had wires missing and damaged connections so again we sorted them out. We put a new battery on it and it turned over and fired. Its been running fine now in the workshop for well over a hour! We cannot put into words how made up we are to have this amazing piece of Mg Rover history running in our workshop!
It looks like the car will making it to POL this year!

championdaddy · 8th January 2015, 10:28

Well done you lot !!!!!!!

thomas 75 connie · 8th January 2015, 10:29

OOoh ill have to look out for you at POL i had totally forgot that you had this car. Be interesting when you get it on the road how well it goes compared to the BMW engined 75s

Pistonbroke666 · 8th January 2015, 10:32

I know zilch about this car or the engine.
Would anyone mind filling me in?

Ta

suffolk boy · 8th January 2015, 10:50

its a test model. rover where trying out the fiat lump with the idea of fitting this unit instead of the bmw diesel unit.a few of these have escaped into the public domain

CPowell78 · 8th January 2015, 10:52

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Originally Posted by Pistonbroke666

I know zilch about this car or the engine.
Would anyone mind filling me in?

Ta

The car is a genuine prototype from the Longbridge factory, Mg Rover were looking at changing the diesel engined 75 for a cheaper alternative as i believe BMW were charging them to much. This prototype has a Fiat 1.9 JTD engine fitted which I belive Mg Rover were testing before they went bust. If you would like any more info buddy let me know or just type Fiat engined 75 in on Google and there is more info on there

Pistonbroke666 · 8th January 2015, 11:20

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Originally Posted by Dpl autos

The car is a genuine prototype from the Longbridge factory, Mg Rover were looking at changing the diesel engined 75 for a cheaper alternative as i believe BMW were charging them to much. This prototype has a Fiat 1.9 JTD engine fitted which I belive Mg Rover were testing before they went bust. If you would like any more info buddy let me know or just type Fiat engined 75 in on Google and there is more info on there

Thanks for the heads up!
Makes sense that MG-R would want to move away from an expensive supplier.
Does the ECU remotely resemble MEMS3 or is it something entirely different?

CPowell78 · 8th January 2015, 11:23

No its completely different, Its something we have never seen anywhere near a Mg Rover before! It is a Bosch unit though

first-things-first · 8th January 2015, 11:40

These 1.9 diesels remap well. From 150 bhp to around 200 bhp ish. Could be fun

How well does the Italian electrics talk to British / German electrics? Who translates?

Well we could have had the fun of DPF issues - with this what if.

sworks · 8th January 2015, 11:52

Was there more than one Fiat engined car? There used to be one in Barrow. Brilliant engine but I believe communication issues? Can't remember it used T4 or Examiner. Nice car

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first-things-first Posted a thing or two MG ZT Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Hornchurch Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 176 Thanked 352 Times in 272 Posts	These 1.9 diesels remap well. From 150 bhp to around 200 bhp ish. Could be fun How well does the Italian electrics talk to British / German electrics? Who translates? Well we could have had the fun of DPF issues - with this what if. Last edited by first-things-first; 8th January 2015 at 11:45.. Reason: Just noticed it said Bosch

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sworks This is my second home Rover 75 Tourer, Classic mini Cooper S, Abarth 595 competizione, MG TF and a Hyundai Tucson PHEV Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria Posts: 13,078 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 1,686 Times in 1,040 Posts	Was there more than one Fiat engined car? There used to be one in Barrow. Brilliant engine but I believe communication issues? Can't remember it used T4 or Examiner. Nice car __________________ ................................................. 'Marmite' Possibly one of the most famous 75 tourers produced! left the production line as the last of only Three Rover 75 tourers produced in Trophy Yellow. 48 hours later Longbridge closed. The last sold ordered 75 Tourer. Paid for by the Phoenix Four and handed over by John Towers to the Warwickshire Northampton Air ambulance service as a Rapid Response vehicle

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Pistonbroke666 Posted a thing or two MG ZT 1.8T, MG GS Exclusive Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Grays Essex Posts: 1,809 Thanks: 100 Thanked 282 Times in 205 Posts	I know zilch about this car or the engine. Would anyone mind filling me in? Ta

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CPowell78 Loves to post Mg ZT 190 (Cherry Bomb) MG ZT 260 (Sally) MG ZT 190 SE Facelift (Zoe) Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Deeside North Wales Posts: 369 Thanks: 107 Thanked 73 Times in 53 Posts	No its completely different, Its something we have never seen anywhere near a Mg Rover before! It is a Bosch unit though