Air bag warning sign

justmicky · 16th May 2008, 08:04

I have a Rover 75 Club SE 1.8 (W - 2000). For a few years now I have constantly had the airbag warning light showing up on the dash indicator panel. Sometimes it goes out, but more often than not it is illuminated. If the warning sign is "out" for any length of time, it appears to come back on when the drivers seat has been altered i.e. pushed back/forward. I can see some electrical connections under the drivers seat....could this be related? Any solutions at all for this problem?
Regards
justmicky

baxlin · 16th May 2008, 10:22

It has been well discussed on here, and yes, it seems it's usually is the connectors under the seat, yellow IIRC.

The consensus is to ideally replace them with fully soldered joints, but at least make sure the connectors are really tight, and hold them so with a cable tie.

When the light's on, the airbags are disabled, so it's an important fix to do.

HTH

malcolm

GERFIX · 16th May 2008, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by baxlin

It has been well discussed on here, and yes, it seems it's usually is the connectors under the seat, yellow IIRC.

The consensus is to ideally replace them with fully soldered joints, but at least make sure the connectors are really tight, and hold them so with a cable tie.

When the light's on, the airbags are disabled, so it's an important fix to do.

HTH

malcolm

Ditto, although, rather than the full solder joints I used spade connectors and shrinkwrapped them. That was just my personal preference to making a permanent joint.

justmicky · 16th May 2008, 11:51

Many thanks for that. Will get right onto that and let you know how I get on
Kind Regards
Justmicky

Jules · 16th May 2008, 15:11

Agree with Gerfix
Lucas connectors seem the best, and you can unplug if ever seats have to come out.

The big danger with soldering is unless you posses an industrial standard soldering iron that is Electrostatically insulated, ESD it, may trigger the airbag system.

The official Rover mod kit had special connectors and a way of heating the solder without actually touching the conductors. (price was about £100 for the privilege!!)

If you really insist on soldering the dodge is to heat the Iron up first then disconnect it & start soldering. No airbags gone of here yet (touching wooden dash)

justmicky · 16th May 2008, 17:21

Well I have had these yellow IIRC connectors apart for a look, put them back together again...with tie wraps around (also had the blue connnectors apart too)....and still the same...the light stays on for 4 secs, briefly goes out and then comes back on. I am a bit wary of cuttiing out these connectors myself? Am I likely to set off any air bags....or am I best taking it to a garage?
Regards
Justmicky

baxlin · 16th May 2008, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules

Agree with Gerfix
Lucas connectors seem the best, and you can unplug if ever seats have to come out.

The big danger with soldering is unless you posses an industrial standard soldering iron that is Electrostatically insulated, ESD it, may trigger the airbag system.

The official Rover mod kit had special connectors and a way of heating the solder without actually touching the conductors. (price was about £100 for the privilege!!)

If you really insist on soldering the dodge is to heat the Iron up first then disconnect it & start soldering. No airbags gone of here yet (touching wooden dash)

Sorry if I gave a b*m steer, chaps, as I said in my post, I haven't done the fix myself, and thought I'd read on here to solder. Memory's obviously going as well

justmicky · 16th May 2008, 20:20

Hi,
Can you explain what you mean by "shrink wrapping" the connectors
Regards
justmicky

GreyGhost · 16th May 2008, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by justmicky

Hi,
Can you explain what you mean by "shrink wrapping" the connectors
Regards
justmicky

Electrical wire sleeving that shrinks when heated.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...t15&doy=search

justmicky · 17th May 2008, 18:30

Thanks for all the help so far.
I took all the connectors under the seats to bits again today and managed to bypass them all. No success though. Have had to admit defeat as far as my tech ability goes, and so I am getting a "mobile diagnostic" check done...comes recommended as similair prob solved using the same guy recently reported on the forum. Could be a number of other things according to feedback on the forum...fingers crossed its still something simple! Next sat the diag check so will post results accordingly as this seems to be a common problem!
Once again...thanks guys..would be in limbo without this forum
Justmicky

16th May 2008, 08:04	#1
justmicky I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon 1.8 Club SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: north west Posts: 2,160 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Air bag warning sign I have a Rover 75 Club SE 1.8 (W - 2000). For a few years now I have constantly had the airbag warning light showing up on the dash indicator panel. Sometimes it goes out, but more often than not it is illuminated. If the warning sign is "out" for any length of time, it appears to come back on when the drivers seat has been altered i.e. pushed back/forward. I can see some electrical connections under the drivers seat....could this be related? Any solutions at all for this problem? Regards justmicky

16th May 2008, 11:51	#4
justmicky I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon 1.8 Club SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: north west Posts: 2,160 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	airbag warning sign Many thanks for that. Will get right onto that and let you know how I get on Kind Regards Justmicky

16th May 2008, 15:11	#5
Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	Agree with Gerfix Lucas connectors seem the best, and you can unplug if ever seats have to come out. The big danger with soldering is unless you posses an industrial standard soldering iron that is Electrostatically insulated, ESD it, may trigger the airbag system. The official Rover mod kit had special connectors and a way of heating the solder without actually touching the conductors. (price was about £100 for the privilege!!) If you really insist on soldering the dodge is to heat the Iron up first then disconnect it & start soldering. No airbags gone of here yet (touching wooden dash) __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block

16th May 2008, 17:21	#6
justmicky I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon 1.8 Club SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: north west Posts: 2,160 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Airbag warning light Well I have had these yellow IIRC connectors apart for a look, put them back together again...with tie wraps around (also had the blue connnectors apart too)....and still the same...the light stays on for 4 secs, briefly goes out and then comes back on. I am a bit wary of cuttiing out these connectors myself? Am I likely to set off any air bags....or am I best taking it to a garage? Regards Justmicky

17th May 2008, 18:30	#10
justmicky I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon 1.8 Club SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: north west Posts: 2,160 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Air bag warning signs Thanks for all the help so far. I took all the connectors under the seats to bits again today and managed to bypass them all. No success though. Have had to admit defeat as far as my tech ability goes, and so I am getting a "mobile diagnostic" check done...comes recommended as similair prob solved using the same guy recently reported on the forum. Could be a number of other things according to feedback on the forum...fingers crossed its still something simple! Next sat the diag check so will post results accordingly as this seems to be a common problem! Once again...thanks guys..would be in limbo without this forum Justmicky

16th May 2008, 10:22	#2
baxlin This is my second home Volvo C70 Convertible and JZR 3 wheeler Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tring, Herts Posts: 3,961 Thanks: 124 Thanked 173 Times in 124 Posts	It has been well discussed on here, and yes, it seems it's usually is the connectors under the seat, yellow IIRC. The consensus is to ideally replace them with fully soldered joints, but at least make sure the connectors are really tight, and hold them so with a cable tie. When the light's on, the airbags are disabled, so it's an important fix to do. HTH malcolm

16th May 2008, 20:20	#8
justmicky I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Saloon 1.8 Club SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: north west Posts: 2,160 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hi, Can you explain what you mean by "shrink wrapping" the connectors Regards justmicky