Sanity check - fitting handbrake shoes

gazcon · 14th March 2015, 14:21

The Mrs' car is due in for MOT next week, with a non-existant handbrake. Dismantled the rear last weekend to find the handbrake shoes had disintegrated. Ordered some of these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3006100012...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Removed the old ones, fitted the new ones, without too much trouble.

I'm a bit stuck now though. even with the adjuster wound all the way back I can't get the discs back on over the new shoes.

I've tried the old discs and a set of new discs I had in the garage, no joy.

Any clue were I'm going wrong here

Is it just that there's too much meat on the new shoes?

Thanks!

Kev75 · 14th March 2015, 14:31

Hi .
Have you backed off the handbrake lever aduster nut?

Kev

wullie480 · 14th March 2015, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev75

Hi .
Have you backed off the handbrake lever aduster nut?

Kev

Also is the handbrake off?

gazcon · 14th March 2015, 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev75

Hi .
Have you backed off the handbrake lever aduster nut?

Kev

No, I don't have a long socket to reach it. I thought I would be alright as it only made minor adjustments...

If that's my problem, any cunning tips for backing it off without the proper tool?

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Originally Posted by wullie480

Also is the handbrake off?

Yep, there is a limit to my mechanical incompetence

roverbarmy · 14th March 2015, 14:49

The small slot in the end of the new shoe in the pic (left hand end) doesn't look as big as the old one? Also try gently tapping the shoes (and any moveable support/pivot) either way to centralise them. Sometimes filing a slight chamfer edge (take care not to inhale dust) on leading edge helps. Plus handbrake adjuster nut adjusted well off as above.
Mike

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Originally Posted by gazcon

No, I don't have a long socket to reach it. I thought I would be alright as it only made minor adjustments...

If that's my problem, any cunning tips for backing it off without the proper tool?

No! Get the proper tool. I bought a full set at Wilco for a few quid. If you're near enough, you can borrow mine?
Mike

gazcon · 14th March 2015, 15:07

Thanks Roverbarmy. Sadly I'm t'other side of Norfolk, King's Lynn way.

Right, have had a break. Will go and see if I can come up with something.

rich17865 · 14th March 2015, 15:14

Proper tool?

Isn't it just a deep socket?

Where did you get the shoes? I remember reading about 2 sorts being available and one sort doesn't fit.

David Lawrence · 14th March 2015, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich17865

Proper tool?

Isn't it just a deep socket?

Where did you get the shoes? I remember reading about 2 sorts being available and one sort doesn't fit.

Those linings do look quite thick. They are not from a V8 or something are they? Also have you got a rust ridge around the edge of the drum? Try removing it with some coarse sandpaper

oldcarguy · 14th March 2015, 15:38

Those shoe's look way to meaty, they normally look like they are nearly worn out.

suffolk boy · 14th March 2015, 15:44

had the same the linings are to thick i managed to get the drum on but then the wheel would not turn.in the end i got unipart ones that where fine the others are still in the shed.you will have to get some others or sand the ones on the car down.

14th March 2015, 14:21	#1
gazcon Avid contributor Rover 75 2004 Cdti Contemporary & a 1999 V6 "jap spec" Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 226 Thanks: 111 Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts	Sanity check - fitting handbrake shoes The Mrs' car is due in for MOT next week, with a non-existant handbrake. Dismantled the rear last weekend to find the handbrake shoes had disintegrated. Ordered some of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3006100012...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Removed the old ones, fitted the new ones, without too much trouble. I'm a bit stuck now though. even with the adjuster wound all the way back I can't get the discs back on over the new shoes. I've tried the old discs and a set of new discs I had in the garage, no joy. Any clue were I'm going wrong here Is it just that there's too much meat on the new shoes? Thanks! Last edited by gazcon; 14th March 2015 at 14:24..

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suffolk boy This is my second home fiat panda Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: haverhill Posts: 6,720 Thanks: 96 Thanked 586 Times in 526 Posts	had the same the linings are to thick i managed to get the drum on but then the wheel would not turn.in the end i got unipart ones that where fine the others are still in the shed.you will have to get some others or sand the ones on the car down. __________________ fiat panda 1.2 eco

14th March 2015, 14:31	#2
Kev75 Avid contributor Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Nantwich Posts: 151 Thanks: 260 Thanked 41 Times in 34 Posts	Hi . Have you backed off the handbrake lever aduster nut? Kev

14th March 2015, 15:07	#6
gazcon Avid contributor Rover 75 2004 Cdti Contemporary & a 1999 V6 "jap spec" Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Norfolk Posts: 226 Thanks: 111 Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts	Thanks Roverbarmy. Sadly I'm t'other side of Norfolk, King's Lynn way. Right, have had a break. Will go and see if I can come up with something.

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rich17865 This is my second home Transit Connect Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Crewe Posts: 9,532 Thanks: 868 Thanked 1,619 Times in 1,095 Posts	Proper tool? Isn't it just a deep socket? Where did you get the shoes? I remember reading about 2 sorts being available and one sort doesn't fit.

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oldcarguy Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Conn SE Tourer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Driffield Posts: 1,952 Thanks: 27 Thanked 151 Times in 125 Posts	Those shoe's look way to meaty, they normally look like they are nearly worn out.