Advice please - sub frame

Rooney · 25th November 2016, 18:12

Hi

Not something I've experienced before so at a bit of a loss as to how to advise.

A friend of mine has had their 75 in for a pre mot today, they knew it was going to need about £350 of work however they've now been told that the subframe is rotten and the car is dangerous.

The garage haven't quoted for the subframe because they assumed that the £350 of known work (rotten sills, front suspension arms and tyres) combined with the newly discovered need for subframe replacement would make the repair far too expensve.

My question is this:

Has anybody ever had to replace a subframe? and if so, what sort of money are we talking about?

Thanks in advance

klarzy · 25th November 2016, 18:26

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Originally Posted by g.mc.g

Hi

Not something I've experienced before so at a bit of a loss as to how to advise.

A friend of mine has had their 75 in for a pre mot today, they knew it was going to need about £350 of work however they've now been told that the subframe is rotten and the car is dangerous.

The garage haven't quoted for the subframe because they assumed that the £350 of known work (rotten sills, front suspension arms and tyres) combined with the newly discovered need for subframe replacement would make the repair far too expensve.

My question is this:

Has anybody ever had to replace a subframe? and if so, what sort of money are we talking about?

Thanks in advance

which engine does he have...

Rooney · 25th November 2016, 18:37

2l diesel Klarzy

klarzy · 25th November 2016, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by g.mc.g

2l diesel Klarzy

I have a serviceable sub frame...

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EastPete · 25th November 2016, 18:47

Do they really mean the subframe or do they mean the lower rear arms ?(more likely to rot than the subframe itself). I think someone else on here was told the same thing at an MOT a few weeks back, and it was really the arms that needed replacing, not the subframe.

Pete

Rooney · 25th November 2016, 19:14

It's definitely the subframe Pete.

I've seen the pictures, I'll see if I can get one to post.

Typhoon190 · 25th November 2016, 19:35

Front or rear subframe?

Rooney · 25th November 2016, 19:40

Sorry, its the rear

Saga Lout · 25th November 2016, 20:00

I've found many MOT stations overdoing the failures a bit lately, their criteria has got tighter and big words that fail cars can worry people. If it's rusty sills and a cruddy subframe, then it's a mender, if it's a rusty car full of damp and flaky rust all over the underside, it's a scrapper because it will be all through the car. It's a fine balance with these cars, some will make it and most won't.

Rooney · 25th November 2016, 20:09

That's one of the good things about this place - there's no inconsistency in mot stations. We only have government run centres staffed by civil servants.

I've never known a 75 have a rotten subframe before, and the sills, my goodness, they're awful underneath. You can literally put your finger against them, press and rust just drops all over the drive.

He ''rescued'' the car earlier in the year, a couple of months before I sold my saloon - I feel so bad for him because he paid top money for it.

25th November 2016, 18:12	#1
Rooney Suspended MG ZT 135+ Rover 75 CDTi Tourer, 75 2.5 V6 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: County Antrim Posts: 2,027 Thanks: 835 Thanked 882 Times in 557 Posts	Advice please - sub frame Hi Not something I've experienced before so at a bit of a loss as to how to advise. A friend of mine has had their 75 in for a pre mot today, they knew it was going to need about £350 of work however they've now been told that the subframe is rotten and the car is dangerous. The garage haven't quoted for the subframe because they assumed that the £350 of known work (rotten sills, front suspension arms and tyres) combined with the newly discovered need for subframe replacement would make the repair far too expensve. My question is this: Has anybody ever had to replace a subframe? and if so, what sort of money are we talking about? Thanks in advance

25th November 2016, 20:00	#9
Saga Lout This is my second home MG ZT and Rover 75, Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Wigan Posts: 3,276 Thanks: 2,556 Thanked 2,685 Times in 1,037 Posts	Pictures Please. I've found many MOT stations overdoing the failures a bit lately, their criteria has got tighter and big words that fail cars can worry people. If it's rusty sills and a cruddy subframe, then it's a mender, if it's a rusty car full of damp and flaky rust all over the underside, it's a scrapper because it will be all through the car. It's a fine balance with these cars, some will make it and most won't.

25th November 2016, 18:37	#3
Rooney Suspended MG ZT 135+ Rover 75 CDTi Tourer, 75 2.5 V6 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: County Antrim Posts: 2,027 Thanks: 835 Thanked 882 Times in 557 Posts	2l diesel Klarzy

25th November 2016, 18:47	#5
EastPete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Classic saloon, MGB GT, Skoda Yeti Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ramsey, Cambs Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 626 Thanked 635 Times in 430 Posts	Do they really mean the subframe or do they mean the lower rear arms ?(more likely to rot than the subframe itself). I think someone else on here was told the same thing at an MOT a few weeks back, and it was really the arms that needed replacing, not the subframe. Pete

25th November 2016, 19:14	#6
Rooney Suspended MG ZT 135+ Rover 75 CDTi Tourer, 75 2.5 V6 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: County Antrim Posts: 2,027 Thanks: 835 Thanked 882 Times in 557 Posts	It's definitely the subframe Pete. I've seen the pictures, I'll see if I can get one to post.

25th November 2016, 19:35	#7
Typhoon190 This is my second home MG ZT-T 190 Monogram Typhoon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 4,708 Thanks: 328 Thanked 557 Times in 443 Posts	Front or rear subframe?

25th November 2016, 19:40	#8
Rooney Suspended MG ZT 135+ Rover 75 CDTi Tourer, 75 2.5 V6 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: County Antrim Posts: 2,027 Thanks: 835 Thanked 882 Times in 557 Posts	Sorry, its the rear

25th November 2016, 20:09	#10
Rooney Suspended MG ZT 135+ Rover 75 CDTi Tourer, 75 2.5 V6 Saloon Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: County Antrim Posts: 2,027 Thanks: 835 Thanked 882 Times in 557 Posts	That's one of the good things about this place - there's no inconsistency in mot stations. We only have government run centres staffed by civil servants. I've never known a 75 have a rotten subframe before, and the sills, my goodness, they're awful underneath. You can literally put your finger against them, press and rust just drops all over the drive. He ''rescued'' the car earlier in the year, a couple of months before I sold my saloon - I feel so bad for him because he paid top money for it.