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7th November 2018, 10:48 | #1 |
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V6 lpg kit for sale
Complete kit removed working from a 75 saloon. Was bought to install in my tourer but I didn't get round to fitting, and I don't intend on keeping the car much longer so it's just cluttering up the garage. Everything's included just needs fitting. It even comes with a full tank of lpg!
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7th November 2018, 10:59 | #2 |
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Very interested in this, could I have first dibs please if no one else has asked for this already?
Whether I buy it depends on a few questions: 1. Do you know how much I'd expect to pay to have this fitted? Seen online that there are a few LPG specialist garages that fit these. 2. What kind of MPG is achievable with the LPG kit? 3. I've seen a lot of LPG conversions where the engine cover isn't fitted anymore, does the engine cover still fit with this LPG kit fitted? Thanks, Rick |
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Your the first to ask so of course! Forgot to add, it's a landirenzo kit and the tank is at least 40l, but I can't remember exactly off the top of my head.
Edit, tank is 67 litres No idea how much to fit, I was going to do it myself. Economy is slightly less (apparently) but obviously the price of fuel is half as much. I think the cover goes on, but I can't be certain
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The newer more recent efficient versions that I have had probably knock that down to nearer 10% less milage than petrol mpg. |
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8th November 2018, 07:18 | #5 |
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I first converted my 827 Sterling back in 2000, later swopping it through 3-4 more identical cars. As I used to do 20k a year, until I retired last Christmas, that is a fantastic saving at over 1/2 price for fuel. Back in 2007, I changed to a 75 Connie 2.5V6, and fitted a new multi injection kit. All DIY fitted, and checked by Tinley Tech (Google them). The old kit was 15% less as stated above; the new kit is no different on mpg to that on petrol. Not much room under the bonnet but it will go in, and the engine cover is still there. I pay around 50-55p/litre - Morrisons or the local gas supplier. Don't be fooled into thinking only forecourts sell it, think of local gas suppliers (such as Calor agents) or caravan dealers. Plenty of info on line and TomTom apps. Fitting from scratch with no rush takes up to 3 days. There is an LPGA association that tries to set rules and standards, good to follow but they insist on certificates etc which are NOT a legal requirement, however insurance may ask for them. Tanks are legally required to be certified every 10 years as a pressure vessel - that one in the pic looks rough! Any competent person should be capable of doing it, but always involve someone like Tinley Tech for guidance. Don't cut corners.
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I too think that tank should be checked out - I’m sure it’s ok but that level of surface rust is worrying. I ran several V8 Landrovers on LPG and cannot speak more highly of this alternative fuel. So clean burning the engine oil is still clear after 6000 miles! When tuned properly the mpg is only slightly less than with petrol. But at about 50% cost the savings are substantial I used Calor gas centres a lot to fill up as well as the Countrywide network (mainly a SW thing) Do remember tho that LPG is “dry” and has no lubrication ability so a valve lubrication system is worthwhile and inexpensive. I can also vouch for Tinley Tech. Never used them myself but many Land Rover guys do and the feedback was positive. |
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Thanks for the replies all I will have to take some time to have a think about it and do some more looking into. As just thinking about it over the last couple days it may conflict a little with some of the other plans I have for the car. I don't know anything about LPG systems so will have to do a bit of homework.
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I was getting between 180miles on a 50l tank around town and up to 260 on a motorway in my 180 And if you get all injectors in a v section you can have a cover on |
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Not trying to lose the OP a sale by the way.
But I wouldn't consider a 40L tank in fact nothing under 70L at least. You have to allow losing something like 20% dead space for expansion on the tank size so anything under 65L upwards can mean running to the petrol station every 5 minutes depending on user milage I would also point out that on my Merc E240 one of the cats on the exhaust melted due to the extra heat generated by the LPG hotter burn. This resulted in sometimes the car stutterering and spluttering until the engine totally warmed up and the exhaust expanded allowing a decent through flow of exhaust gases. The exhaust guys who replaced the faulty exhaust pipe section with a straight through said that they come across the situation quite a bit. When they are installed well and work well an LPG conversion is great. Personally I'd leave installation to proven professionals. As regards Certificate of conversion there is no actual official certificate ( or certainly wasn't) but professionals who are registered as approved installers update the conversion details of the car to the trade website data base. I was asked by DVLA and my insurers for the installation certificate of conversion of the merc and referred them both to the website. Last edited by bendrick; 9th November 2018 at 15:55.. |
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I must admit that I disagree with leaving it to the professionals. Whilst undoubtedly there are some very good ones, there are plenty of not so good.
I did my original conversion on a Sterling in 2000, and had it checked by the supplier. With hindsight, I would class them as reasonable rather than very good - I've learnt a lot since. Nothing inherently wrong, but they could have done better. Since then I have maintained the system, learning fault finding on the way. I've studied documents on the web, talked to some pros, bought spares. If a good sound install is done (plenty of guides on the web) and it is checked by a pro, anyone who can maintain a 75 properly can do it. Safety is the main concern, use proper fixings, locate things properly, follow the rules/guidelines. I have great respect from TinleyTech, and a lot of the LPGA stuff. But, my gas computer, and injectors have failed over time (separately) and I've had wrong advice from both. The computer is built for 8cyl, so 7 & 8 are unused. I had a relay fail inside on an injector feed, found I was able to use a spare output but everyone said it was impossible. I had injectors fail, I was told they come in matched pairs of banks (3 per bank) & must not be swapped or repaired. I have countless times swapped internals to rebuild them. There are plenty of people who do not fully understand what is actually a quite simple system. Just be careful who you trust. Stewart |
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