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7th December 2016, 15:05 | #1 |
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Towing advice needed
Hi all,
I need some advice around towing a vehicle using a 75. I need to get my ZT to Phil in Milton Keynes and am thinking about the option of borrowing a trailer to put the ZT on and towing it using my 75. The trailer has it's own brakes. Now I obtained my licence in 2012, so I only have category B on my licence. The current rules around towing for my category states: "A category B vehicle may be coupled with a trailer over 750kgs MAM, provided the combination does not exceed 3,500kgs MAM." Now I guess that means I can tow a trailer only if the combined weight of the tow vehicle, trailer and what's being towed does not exceed 3,500kg. So my question is, how heavy are our cars and would I exceed the 3,500kg limit? Not sure what the weight of the trailer is, but it's one of these types that a 75 comfortably sits on. cheers |
7th December 2016, 15:14 | #2 |
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Rick you can't tow you don't have the entitlement
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7th December 2016, 15:19 | #3 |
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Our cars empty Wiegh 1.5 tons approx
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7th December 2016, 15:25 | #4 |
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I have used the ZT CDTi i had to tow other ZT's before and it was fine, combined weight is very important though.
Everything must not total more than 3.5 tonnes, so trailer/car/towing car/driver/any gear in either car. All that has to be below 3.5T
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Rick, your correct with what you can tow. But not sure if you'd be legal towing your ZT on a trailer. Pretty sure another exclusion on the towing rules for B grade is the towed trailer must not weigh more than the car towing it. So in theroy, 150 to 200kg for the trailer + the weight of the ZT may nudge you over.
If you've a public weigh bridge near by, pop your 75 on and see what it weighs, the trailer should have a weight plate on that'll tell you its kerb weight.
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7th December 2016, 17:45 | #6 |
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Hi Rick,
Unless someone can prove me wrong, I'm happy to state you CANNOT LEGALLY tow any complete 75/ZT/ZTT (i.e. fitted with all mechanicals, running gear, interior, etc.) using another similar model & transporter trailer. The reason for this is the maximum towing weight of any of our cars is 1600kg and this must include the weight of the transporter trailer. As our lightest models (1.8 manual Classic) are around 1400kg, and the lightest trailers with a sufficient payload (eg Brian James) come in at around 600kg, you'll quickly see that even with the most favourable scenario, the total load will be 2000kg and hence 400kg overweight at best. Add in higher spec, diesels and autos, and you'll be even further over the legal limit. This, of course, will render you uninsured, whilst driving an overloaded combination. The chassis plate on your tow car will show the maximum train weight & hence towing ability. A weigh bridge is a very useful tool, as it'll take into account fuel in the tank, driver weight, ancilliaries, etc. Irrespective of licences, classes, age, etc. there is a big difference between what our cars will tow and what they will tow legally. PM me if you need any other help
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It's the gross weight of the trailer that's used for enforcement purposes regardless of its actual weight when stopped. That trailer looks like it'd be plated at 3500 kg gross which, on its own, would put it out with your licence.
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