V6 lpg kit for sale

[rrobson]

Complete kit removed working from a 75 saloon. Was bought to install in my tourer but I didn't get round to fitting, and I don't intend on keeping the car much longer so it's just cluttering up the garage. Everything's included just needs fitting. It even comes with a full tank of lpg!

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[Rick-sta]

Very interested in this, could I have first dibs please if no one else has asked for this already?

Whether I buy it depends on a few questions:
1. Do you know how much I'd expect to pay to have this fitted? Seen online that there are a few LPG specialist garages that fit these.

2. What kind of MPG is achievable with the LPG kit?

3. I've seen a lot of LPG conversions where the engine cover isn't fitted anymore, does the engine cover still fit with this LPG kit fitted?

Thanks,
Rick

[rrobson]

Your the first to ask so of course! Forgot to add, it's a landirenzo kit and the tank is at least 40l, but I can't remember exactly off the top of my head.

Edit, tank is 67 litres

No idea how much to fit, I was going to do it myself.
Economy is slightly less (apparently) but obviously the price of fuel is half as much.
I think the cover goes on, but I can't be certain

[bendrick]

Originally Posted by Rick-sta

Very interested in this, could I have first dibs please if no one else has asked for this already?

Whether I buy it depends on a few questions:
1. Do you know how much I'd expect to pay to have this fitted? Seen online that there are a few LPG specialist garages that fit these.

2. What kind of MPG is achievable with the LPG kit?

3. I've seen a lot of LPG conversions where the engine cover isn't fitted anymore, does the engine cover still fit with this LPG kit fitted?

Thanks,
Rick

I've had a few LPG conversions and they usually work out (certainly the older kits) at a consistent 15% less milage than petrol MPG but of course 50% of the price of petrol.

The newer more recent efficient versions that I have had probably knock that down to nearer 10% less milage than petrol mpg.

[StewartIngram]

I first converted my 827 Sterling back in 2000, later swopping it through 3-4 more identical cars. As I used to do 20k a year, until I retired last Christmas, that is a fantastic saving at over 1/2 price for fuel. Back in 2007, I changed to a 75 Connie 2.5V6, and fitted a new multi injection kit. All DIY fitted, and checked by Tinley Tech (Google them). The old kit was 15% less as stated above; the new kit is no different on mpg to that on petrol. Not much room under the bonnet but it will go in, and the engine cover is still there. I pay around 50-55p/litre - Morrisons or the local gas supplier. Don't be fooled into thinking only forecourts sell it, think of local gas suppliers (such as Calor agents) or caravan dealers. Plenty of info on line and TomTom apps. Fitting from scratch with no rush takes up to 3 days. There is an LPGA association that tries to set rules and standards, good to follow but they insist on certificates etc which are NOT a legal requirement, however insurance may ask for them. Tanks are legally required to be certified every 10 years as a pressure vessel - that one in the pic looks rough! Any competent person should be capable of doing it, but always involve someone like Tinley Tech for guidance. Don't cut corners.

Stewart

[Darcydog]

Originally Posted by StewartIngram

I first converted my 827 Sterling back in 2000, later swopping it through 3-4 more identical cars. As I used to do 20k a year, until I retired last Christmas, that is a fantastic saving at over 1/2 price for fuel. Back in 2007, I changed to a 75 Connie 2.5V6, and fitted a new multi injection kit. All DIY fitted, and checked by Tinley Tech (Google them). The old kit was 15% less as stated above; the new kit is no different on mpg to that on petrol. Not much room under the bonnet but it will go in, and the engine cover is still there. I pay around 50-55p/litre - Morrisons or the local gas supplier. Don't be fooled into thinking only forecourts sell it, think of local gas suppliers (such as Calor agents) or caravan dealers. Plenty of info on line and TomTom apps. Fitting from scratch with no rush takes up to 3 days. There is an LPGA association that tries to set rules and standards, good to follow but they insist on certificates etc which are NOT a legal requirement, however insurance may ask for them. Tanks are legally required to be certified every 10 years as a pressure vessel - that one in the pic looks rough! Any competent person should be capable of doing it, but always involve someone like Tinley Tech for guidance. Don't cut corners.

Stewart

Totally agree Stewart.

I too think that tank should be checked out - I’m sure it’s ok but that level of surface rust is worrying.

I ran several V8 Landrovers on LPG and cannot speak more highly of this alternative fuel.

So clean burning the engine oil is still clear after 6000 miles!

When tuned properly the mpg is only slightly less than with petrol.

But at about 50% cost the savings are substantial

I used Calor gas centres a lot to fill up as well as the Countrywide network (mainly a SW thing)

Do remember tho that LPG is “dry” and has no lubrication ability so a valve lubrication system is worthwhile and inexpensive.

I can also vouch for Tinley Tech. Never used them myself but many Land Rover guys do and the feedback was positive.

[Rick-sta]

Thanks for the replies all I will have to take some time to have a think about it and do some more looking into. As just thinking about it over the last couple days it may conflict a little with some of the other plans I have for the car. I don't know anything about LPG systems so will have to do a bit of homework.

So in the mean time if anyone else wants this feel free to contact rrobson for it as I haven't made up my mind yet

[Darcydog]

One other point is that the octane rating of LPG is far greater than the petrol we now use. My V8’s would “hunt” a bit on petrol on tickover. On LPG they were so smooth you could wind the RPM right down.

But the cost was of course that they would not the tickover on petrol. And this is the inherent issue with duel fuel LPG/petrol engines - one fuel is not a direct substitute for the other so the engine set up will be a compromise.

LPG has a far higher octane rating but a lower calorific value than petrol. This means it burns far more cleanly and completely- hence its lower price at the pumps as it is so much cleaner.

If you could guarantee LPG availability wherever you drove then you could set the engine up to give the same mpg as petrol. But because this is not practical you have to have the engine able to run on both fuels.

And just as a higher calorific value diesel gives better MPG than petrol, then the lower still calorific value LPG gives lower mpg.

But technology is improving and better designed petrol engines are now giving diesels a run for their money, then so too can LPG efficiency be improved - but with an obvious compromise where the engine has to run on two fuel types each with a totally different induction system but a common valve timing and ignition system.

Issues that are easily fixed and would have been by now had the Green Taliban not hoodwinked Governments into believing that because of diesels marginally lower CO2 levels than petrol (not compared to LPG mind ) then diesel was the Global Warming equivalent to Fairy Dust

[flying_pig]

Originally Posted by Rick-sta

Very interested in this, could I have first dibs please if no one else has asked for this already?

Whether I buy it depends on a few questions:
1. Do you know how much I'd expect to pay to have this fitted? Seen online that there are a few LPG specialist garages that fit these.

2. What kind of MPG is achievable with the LPG kit?

3. I've seen a lot of LPG conversions where the engine cover isn't fitted anymore, does the engine cover still fit with this LPG kit fitted?

Thanks,
Rick

All depends you can fit it yourself
I was getting between 180miles on a 50l tank around town and up to 260 on a motorway in my 180
And if you get all injectors in a v section you can have a cover on

[bendrick]

Not trying to lose the OP a sale by the way.

But I wouldn't consider a 40L tank in fact nothing under 70L at least.

You have to allow losing something like 20% dead space for expansion on the tank size so anything under 65L upwards can mean running to the petrol station every 5 minutes depending on user milage


I would also point out that on my Merc E240 one of the cats on the exhaust melted due to the extra heat generated by the LPG hotter burn. This resulted in sometimes the car stutterering and spluttering until the engine totally warmed up and the exhaust expanded allowing a decent through flow of exhaust gases. The exhaust guys who replaced the faulty exhaust pipe section with a straight through said that they come across the situation quite a bit.

When they are installed well and work well an LPG conversion is great. Personally I'd leave installation to proven professionals. As regards Certificate of conversion there is no actual official certificate ( or certainly wasn't) but professionals who are registered as approved installers update the conversion details of the car to the trade website data base.

I was asked by DVLA and my insurers for the installation certificate of conversion of the merc and referred them both to the website.